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  • Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Indy releasing Manning and drafting Andrew Luck was a possibility for which Elway prepared. When Irsay announced Manning's release, Elway & Co. were on the move in Pat Bowlen's jet. It was Elway's job to get Manning and he did. The rest is history.
    To Elway's everlasting credit.

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    • We are getting ready to sign AB!!!!







      Jk lol

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      • Originally posted by MHOC View Post
        We are getting ready to sign AB!!!!







        Jk lol
        Anyone who signs him at this point is as much a clown as he is
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        • Agreed......

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          • Re: Flacco restructure

            At first glance, I thought this was nothing but good: freeing up cap space for emergencies and a potential player extension. After sitting back and digging into it, I am a little worried.

            The original contract spanned until 2021 previously and was voidable with no repercussions at any point. Flacco was due 18.5m, 20.25m, and 24.25m in base salaries the next 3 years. It was widely assumed that we would be cutting him sooner rather than later as those numbers exceed his individual performance.

            Now we "added two voidable years" with the 17m signing bonus being converted and spread over 5 years.

            The 17m bonus conversion means that a 17m, unavoidable cap hit is spread over 2019, 2020, 21, 22, and 23. Roughly 3.4m per year of extra cap hit.

            So if we cut him after this season it is a ~14m dead hit and if we cut him after 2020 it's a 10m dead hit. If we cut him at age 36, after the 2021 year it is a 7m hit.

            Yikes. He is still due base salaries of 20.25m and 24.25m the next two years, with prorated signing bonus hits of 3.6m now added to both years bringing his cap hits to....

            23.6m in 2020 and 27.6m in 2021 with dead cap charges if we cut him exceeding 10m. So much for having a ton of cap space going forward? This will make it hard to retain guys like Harris Jr, Harris, Simmons, Sanders, ect..

            There is a reason the Ravens wanted out of his contract, I dont know why we are making it harder in ourselves to get out of it and actually increasing his cap hit in all years except 2019.

            2019 Flacco is already the highest paid individual year in team history, and for a player who really has not performed well in recent history, this is crazy.

            What happens if he is again below average this year? We have a choice in the offseason of paying him 24m to stay or 14m to go, whereas prior we could have paid him 20m to stay or 0m to go. Yuck.

            This move could really bite us. I'm sick of having QB dead money every year.

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            • I think they are trying to create cap space to make contract with either Harris or Simmons.
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              • Also remember if they don’t spend the money it rolls over, which would take care of a cap hit.

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                • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                  I think they are trying to create cap space to make contract with either Harris or Simmons.
                  At the cost of having Flacco hit our cap for 24m in 2020 and 27m in 2021 if he's on the team or 14m/11m dead money if he's cut.

                  We took the one major positive of Flacco's deal- no dead money if cut, flexibility to move on when necessary, and made that difficult to do until he is 37.

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                  • Looks like Flacco is probably going to be here for awhile.
                    (3 years at least)

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                    • A vote of confidence and stability from the front office.
                      Now, lets get him a left tackle with that freed up money.

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                      • Originally posted by crabcruncher View Post
                        A vote of confidence and stability from the front office.
                        Now, lets get him a left tackle with that freed up money.
                        Yeah that.
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                        • Originally posted by Saddletramp View Post
                          Yeah that.
                          It's probably way too late to get Trent Williams now. This move was done a week ago, so the likelihood is that this is cap space for the future, not now.
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                          • Created the cap and hopefully they sign Shelby Harris before he starts balling out

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                            • [QUOTE=Murph2432;5825393]Created the cap and hopefully they sign Shelby Harris before he starts balling out[/QUOTE

                              I agree pay Shelby Harris Lock 🔒 him up !!

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                              • Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
                                It's probably way too late to get Trent Williams now. This move was done a week ago, so the likelihood is that this is cap space for the future, not now.
                                Most likely a very accurate assessment. But we need to replace Bolles. And maybe a franchise QB.....
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