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  • I don't really see the benefit of making Drew
    Lock the Broncos sacrificial lamb.

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    • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
      at least pretend to be objective...watch the highlight of the int, on nfl.com

      you can clearly see the ball slips out as he is throwing it...a wet ball
      He's paid to make those throws and other QBs do. It's an excuse for poor play.
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      • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
        kid is far from ready, I wouldn't mind seeing him get a couple of late season starts but he is learning this offense still, anybody wanting him out there now is setting that kid up for failure.
        Based on what? Your opinion? Was Minshew ready? Kyle Allen this year and last? Daniel Jones? Mason Rudolph? Mullins and Lamar Jackson last year? There are countless examples of young QBs being forced into the lineup one way or another. Survival of the fittest;sink or swim; those who fail with early playing time were always going to fail. Getting him on the field is setting him up for success. Riding the bench behind a bottom 10 QB is setting him up for failure.

        QBs are never "ready". They learn, adapt, and grow by playing. They get "ready" by playing. He can't play now, but with every loss it looks more and more likely that he plays sooner rather than later, and that is a good thing for his development or "readiness".
        Last edited by Papa-pwn; 09-23-2019, 08:48 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
          I don't really see the benefit of making Drew
          Lock the Broncos sacrificial lamb.
          In what way are people suggesting we make him so?

          We just want what is best for his development and the team's future. You develop on the field, and that helps the team by either developing a franchise QB or finding out that he doesn't have it, allowing us to continue the search.

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          • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
            kid is far from ready, I wouldn't mind seeing him get a couple of late season starts but he is learning this offense still, anybody wanting him out there now is setting that kid up for failure.
            Nobody realistically knows if he’s ready, even the coaches or Lock himself couldn’t say for sure. Nobody knows what any of these players will do, it’s a roll of the dice.

            Did anybody expect Kyle Allen to play as well as he did? Sunday morning most of figured that Panthers game was going to be disaster, then he threw 4 TDs. What about Gardner Minshew, in preseason he completed less than 60% of his passes and three 0 TDs, he wasn’t ready, right?

            When he’s healthy, stick him out and let him play, whether he succeeds or fails will have nothing to do with the amount of time he spends on the bench. Making QBs wait is such an outdated way of thinking.

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            • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
              at least pretend to be objective...watch the highlight of the int, on nfl.com

              you can clearly see the ball slips out as he is throwing it...a wet ball
              I hate to have to log in just to say this, but honestly you guys need to try being objective (to echo another poster's sentiments). Joe isn't even close to the problem on this team and he's actually the best performing player to date--let that sink in. Problem is he doesn't have time, nor does he have a number# target. Sutton can barely get open, they can't run, and Fant is still raw. Teams are just doubling Sanders who's great but has clearly lost a step. There's not a better QB on the roster and most definitely not one that can deliver a better ball at the right time. The problems are elsewhere.

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              • Originally posted by arapaho View Post
                at least pretend to be objective...watch the highlight of the int, on nfl.com

                you can clearly see the ball slips out as he is throwing it...a wet ball
                If you want objective...any objective analysis tells you Flacco is one of the worst starting QBs in the league. He has been for years. A wet interception doesn't change that.

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                • Originally posted by Broncos-R-Great View Post
                  Nobody realistically knows if he’s ready, even the coaches or Lock himself couldn’t say for sure. Nobody knows what any of these players will do, it’s a roll of the dice.

                  Did anybody expect Kyle Allen to play as well as he did? Sunday morning most of figured that Panthers game was going to be disaster, then he threw 4 TDs. What about Gardner Minshew, in preseason he completed less than 60% of his passes and three 0 TDs, he wasn’t ready, right?

                  When he’s healthy, stick him out and let him play, whether he succeeds or fails will have nothing to do with the amount of time he spends on the bench. Making QBs wait is such an outdated way of thinking.
                  Seems to have worked well for Pat Mahomes
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                  • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                    kid is far from ready, I wouldn't mind seeing him get a couple of late season starts but he is learning this offense still, anybody wanting him out there now is setting that kid up for failure.
                    That's my thought as well. He has some upside but he's pretty raw, not starter material until some development and plenty of practice which he's not getting while injured. And if our OL doesn't play better... looks like a recipe for re-injury, or "failure", or both. Then fans will scream "another QB bust" after he's been thrown to the wolves prematurely.

                    Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016

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                    • Worst, lol okay

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                      • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                        Seems to have worked well for Pat Mahomes
                        You can't compare him to a generational talent...

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                        • Originally posted by Papa-pwn View Post
                          In what way are people suggesting we make him so?

                          We just want what is best for his development and the team's future. You develop on the field, and that helps the team by either developing a franchise QB or finding out that he doesn't have it, allowing us to continue the search.
                          Don't rush him back, when he's ready start him.
                          We don't want to panic and get all willy-nilly. Let the team get its game plan going, and the offensive line better, and then put Lock out there.

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                          • Originally posted by Papa-pwn View Post
                            Based on what? Your opinion? Was Minshew ready? Kyle Allen? Mullins last year? There are countless examples of young QBs being forced into the lineup one way or another. Survival of the fittest;sink or swim; those who fail with early playing time were always going to fail. Getting him on the field is setting him up for success. Riding the bench behind a bottom 10 QB is setting him up for failure.

                            QBs are never "ready". They learn, adapt, and grow by playing. They get "ready" by playing. He can't play now, but with every loss it looks more and more likely that he plays sooner rather than later, and that is a good thing for his development or "readiness".
                            Lock can’t play he is injured, and he couldn’t beat out Flacco in camp, best player plays.
                            At this point he is not better than Flacco. Kid goes in there teams are going to go after him, not smart gonna turn him into David Carr
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                            • Originally posted by itshisfault View Post
                              You can't compare him to a generational talent...
                              So the QBs who is playing the best football in the nfl is not the way you want to groom our teams QB? Sorry I don’t agree
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                              • Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
                                I don't really see the benefit of making Drew
                                Lock the Broncos sacrificial lamb.
                                You can't realistically draft a QB though and then wait however many years for the time to be right. If he can't play, it will show. Same as if he can play.

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