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  • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    You pulled this quote from the article:

    "Flacco was once one of the league’s biggest gunslingers. Now he’s a conservative version of Alex Smith.”

    Now, you changed the topic after posting that quote because the facts from this season disprove your quote. It’s also a fact that Flacco is playing better than his career average including career highs for comp% and yards gained/attempt. The fact that his yards gained per attempt is a career high completely disproves any notion that he’s the same.
    No, they don't disprove anything!?!?!

    Just because he can complete some passes doesn't mean he isn't holding onto the ball. Sam Bradford had a rediculous career completion % that doesn't mean he is an avg QB, he is below avg and a great comparison to Flacco

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    • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
      No, they don't disprove anything!?!?!

      Just because he can complete some passes doesn't mean he isn't holding onto the ball. Sam Bradford had a rediculous career completion % that doesn't mean he is an avg QB, he is below avg and a great comparison to Flacco
      What plays are you talking about where he held the ball too long? I provided examples a few posts back showing how he got the ball out quickly to avoid sacks. You’ve just thrown out a general statement with nothing to back it up. Which plays?

      You said he is the same player as he’s always been, yet his comp% is the highest in his career. His yards gained per pass attempt are at a career high. He’s not the same player and those two facts proved you made a statement you can’t backup.

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      • Flacco 5 years ago avg QB that you could win some games with. Today, barely scoring 18 points a game I'd say he is below avg, that's just naturally going to happen the older you get. Tom Brady is the only player in the history of the NFL at that position to buck that notion

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        • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
          What plays are you talking about where he held the ball too long? I provided examples a few posts back showing how he got the ball out quickly to avoid sacks. You’ve just thrown out a general statement with nothing to back it up. Which plays?

          You said he is the same player as he’s always been, yet his comp% is the highest in his career. His yards gained per pass attempt are at a career high. He’s not the same player and those two facts proved you made a statement you can’t backup.
          You cherry picking a few plays out of 5 games to show a couple quick release passes doesn't prove anything. He is going to have some nice throws every game he is an NFL quarterback. 26th ranked offense that's all that matters completion percentage doesn't matter yards-per-attempt doesn't matter can you score? That's what matters and he can't

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          • obviously, it's not all on Joe. Offensive line wide receivers dropping passes running backs not picking up blocks etc etc. It's all a team effort but he's the captain of the ship and so far not driving the ship very well in my opinion

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            • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
              Flacco 5 years ago avg QB that you could win some games with. Today, barely scoring 18 points a game I'd say he is below avg, that's just naturally going to happen the older you get. Tom Brady is the only player in the history of the NFL at that position to buck that notion
              Flacco
              66.7% comp rate
              1258 pass yards
              6 TD
              251.6 yards/game
              7.5 yards gained/attempt
              11.5 yards gained/completion
              90.8 rating

              QB
              62.8% comp rate
              1307 pass yards
              6 TD
              261.4 yards/game
              7.3 yards gained/attempt
              11.2 yards gained/completion
              93.4 rating

              You’re saying Flacco and the QB listed are both below average? The stats are nearly identical. Passing touchdowns/scoring are identical for both quarterbacks.

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              • Sometimes a steady hand at the helm is all you need.

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                • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
                  You cherry picking a few plays out of 5 games to show a couple quick release passes doesn't prove anything. He is going to have some nice throws every game he is an NFL quarterback. 26th ranked offense that's all that matters completion percentage doesn't matter yards-per-attempt doesn't matter can you score? That's what matters and he can't
                  The plays I detailed are more than what you’ve provided, which is none.

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                  • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                    Flacco
                    66.7% comp rate
                    1258 pass yards
                    6 TD
                    251.6 yards/game
                    7.5 yards gained/attempt
                    11.5 yards gained/completion
                    90.8 rating

                    QB
                    62.8% comp rate
                    1307 pass yards
                    6 TD
                    261.4 yards/game
                    7.3 yards gained/attempt
                    11.2 yards gained/completion
                    93.4 rating

                    You’re saying Flacco and the QB listed are both below average? The stats are nearly identical. Passing touchdowns/scoring are identical for both quarterbacks.
                    Give me all the stats you want.....POINTS ARE WHAT WIN GAMES

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                    • Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
                      Sometimes a steady hand at the helm is all you need.
                      Flacco is literally a couple blown calls from being nationally praised as the gritty, seasoned vet QB the Broncos hoped he still was.
                      The NFL is pure entertainment and I love it.

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                      • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
                        Give me all the stats you want.....POINTS ARE WHAT WIN GAMES
                        Relax. Scoring and holding your opponent from scoring win games.

                        Getting back to the question, are those two quarterbacks below average? You said Flacco was below average and both scored the same number of touchdowns.

                        Both are below average?

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                        • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                          Relax. Scoring and holding your opponent from scoring win games.

                          Getting back to the question, are those two quarterbacks below average? You said Flacco was below average and both scored the same number of touchdowns.

                          Both are below average?
                          Obviously I'm not going to say whether the other is or not without knowing the man you are talking about. Does that other QB have a better than 26th ranked offense? I bet he does

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                          • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post
                            Obviously I'm not going to say whether the other is or not without knowing the man you are talking about. Does that other QB have a better than 26th ranked offense? I bet he does
                            Those stats are nearly identical and both scored the same number of touchdowns. You’ve said scoring is the most important thing, and we’re talking about Flacco being below average. With the stats being nearly identical and identical for scoring, the other quarterback is below average by your standard.

                            Is that quarterback below average?

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                            • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                              Flacco
                              66.7% comp rate
                              1258 pass yards
                              6 TD
                              251.6 yards/game
                              7.5 yards gained/attempt
                              11.5 yards gained/completion
                              90.8 rating

                              Aaron Rodgers
                              62.8% comp rate
                              1307 pass yards
                              6 TD
                              261.4 yards/game
                              7.3 yards gained/attempt
                              11.2 yards gained/completion
                              93.4 rating
                              NFL.com has the Broncos offense ranked #18 vs Green Bay #25. Flacco and Rodgers have nearly identical stats with identical passing touchdowns. The Packers are 4-1 and they’re scoring 23.8 points per game. In the last two games the Broncos averaged 23.5 points per game.

                              There are many things that go into winning or losing. The Broncos haven’t played consistently in all three phases. Flacco hasn’t been great but he hasn’t been bad. Sure he’s made a few turnovers. The penalties, turnovers by other players, defense and special teams contributed to the losses.

                              The offense is trending in the right direction as the average over five games overlooks the last two games (23.5 points).

                              I like the changes Fangio made on defense and hopefully he’ll continue adjusting if players aren’t performing.

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                              • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                                I didn’t ask about the offense - is Joe an average or below average quarterback based on those stats?
                                Below average when you look at his TDs, turnovers, and tendency to dink and dunk even when his team is behind.

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