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  • Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    You can't look at him objectively again and say he's "good". The statistics and eye test simply do not back that up.

    He may be better than Siemian, Osweiler, Lynch, and Keenum. But that's not saying a whole lot.

    I do agree, however, that as long as we're winning it really doesn't matter. Flacco will be the starting quarterback, and should be.
    Are you serious? His stats aren't great but I'm going off of the eye test. He's a solid QB. Anyone who doesn't think so has has an idea of who he is without watching him play.
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    • So the defense has allowed 6 points in 120 minutes and Flacco is getting credit for not scoring less than 6. Got it.
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      • Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
        I just don't think that's a very balanced way of looking at a football game.
        its way too simplistic

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        • Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
          I just don't think that's a very balanced way of looking at a football game.
          Hahahaha!!!!!
          Today was the kind of balance I like a 16 pt win by shutout
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          • Originally posted by JW7 View Post
            Are you serious? His stats aren't great but I'm going off of the eye test. He's a solid QB. Anyone who doesn't think so has has an idea of who he is without watching him play.
            Your eye test is telling you that?? ok then... not much can say to that

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            • Originally posted by JW7 View Post
              Are you serious? His stats aren't great but I'm going off of the eye test. He's a solid QB. Anyone who doesn't think so has has an idea of who he is without watching him play.
              I've been watching football for 30 years friend. I've watched Flacco play since he came into the NFL. His best days are behind him.

              Again, nothing changes as long as we win. But there's no way anyone outside of Denver would look at him and think he's playing solid right now.
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              • Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
                So the defense has allowed 6 points in 120 minutes and Flacco is getting credit for not scoring less than 6. Got it.
                Flacco lead the offense to 16 pts today.
                He touches the ball on every play.
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                • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
                  Hmm dont put words in the other side's mouth. No one is saying this, they are simply saying Flacco is not a good QB. Like we can be happy with a win and the way it was executed, but he still looked bad, we can still notice he looked bad, there is nothing wrong with noticing a flaw in a team that just won a game. If our metric for a QB being good is we win a game, then no QB is bad.
                  The Titans have a great defense and the broncos won. There are flaws in this team but if have watched all of these games and determined that Flacco is the problem then you aren't watching the games.
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                  • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                    Hahahaha!!!!!
                    Today was the kind of balance I like a 16 pt win by shutout
                    You're dodging the point. We weren't talking about today. We were talking about the Bears and Jags games.
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                    • Originally posted by JW7 View Post
                      I'm happy Flacco is the starting QB. He's good at playing the position. It's been awhile that we've had that in Denver.
                      Hasn't been all that long since we've had QB pkay better than this. He's among the bottom 10 in passer rating, on pace to commit 24 total ints/fumbles as well as throw 3 less TDs than Keenum did last year at season's end. All while leading an offense that is performing worse than it did with Keenum, on pace to win the same amount of games- 5. He's playing the position worse than Keenum and close to Siemien.

                      Again, he has our offense performing worse than it did with Keenum and he is also individually playing worse than Keenum by way of TDs and turnovers.

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                      • Originally posted by mojo0730
                        I think there's a middle ground here where we can acknowledge the deficiencies of the offense and that a lot of this has to fall on the quarterback, while also being happy with the win and understanding that as long as we continue to win, Flacco will be the starting quarterback.
                        I think your point about the middle ground is excellent. Earlier I posted the stats from Flacco and Rodgers over the first five games. The point wasn’t to say Flacco is as good as Rodgers. The Packers were 4-1 vs Broncos 1-4, not because Rodgers has played great but because the Packers played better in all three phases. The win was great today. It’s not sustainable to shut out teams. If that happened routinely we could put just about any QB out there. I haven’t watched the tape to break down every play by Flacco, but he left some plays on the field today. The 3rd down incomplete throw to Sutton for the 1st down was poor. The line gave him enough time and Flacco simply missed. You need a quarterback who can make that throw late in a game to keep possession. It wasn’t all on Flacco however he was fortunate to have the defense shut down the Titans, otherwise we’re 1-5. If Vrabel would have benched Mariota sooner I think the Titans would have been in the game.

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                        • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
                          Your eye test is telling you that?? ok then... not much can say to that
                          Yep, Flacco is playing good football.
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                          • Originally posted by Papa-pwn View Post
                            Hasn't been all that long since we've had QB pkay better than this. He's among the bottom 10 in passer rating, on pace to commit 24 total ints/fumbles as well as throw 3 less TDs than Keenum did last year at season's end. All while leading an offense that is performing worse than it did with Keenum, on pace to win the same amount of games- 5. He's playing the position worse than Keenum and close to Siemien.

                            Again, he has our offense performing worse than it did with Keenum and he is also individually playing worse than Keenum by way of TDs and turnovers.
                            You love stats. Do you watch the games?
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                            • Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
                              You're dodging the point. We weren't talking about today. We were talking about the Bears and Jags games.
                              If my teams qb puts us ahead Late in the 4th qrt i want our defense to secure the win.
                              Flacco was clutch vs the bears and jags on go ahead drives , and the defense was not clutch.
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                              • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                                Flacco lead the offense to 16 pts today.
                                He touches the ball on every play.
                                Thank you! 16 points is awful. That's bottom 5 offense in the league awful. That's also right around our season average, so what else does that tell ya?

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