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  • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    5 yards yes I believe he could have gotten the first down throwing the ball. If he didn’t, we still punt and put the game on our defense.
    My point is about being aggressive and not playing scared

    *Note:Flacco hasn’t been good all year, but he was able to make end of game plays ( go ahead TD drives) vs Jacksonville and the Bears. All I’m saying is let’s try to get a 3rd and 5.
    Miller you are basically living off of those two moments which are tiny bright spots of a really ugly blemish that is the whole season. That one play, it should have never come to that, it should never be coming down to this

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    • In the last 3 games Flacco has a rate of 75, with 0 TDs, playing against 3 teams that are below average on D (combined).

      It's boring, and it's poor. And as much as some want to blame the Oline, and the refs, and the coaches, what about a seasoned QB???

      Let him have some fun next week at home against the so so Browns, and then bring in Lock after the bye. This ship has sailed too long. For what purpose now?? There is none, once Lock can play.

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      • Originally posted by CanDB View Post
        In the last 3 games Flacco has a rate of 75, with 0 TDs, playing against 3 teams that are below average on D (combined).

        It's boring, and it's poor. And as much as some want to blame the Oline, and the refs, and the coaches, what about a seasoned QB???

        Let him have some fun next week at home against the so so Browns, and then bring in Lock after the bye. This ship has sailed too long. For what purpose now?? There is none, once Lock can play.
        Agreed on all points. I would add that the best way to definitely determine one way or other whether Flacco was a drag on the team (as the majority believes), or the team a drag on Flacco (as some still claim); is by starting someone else at QB.

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        • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
          Miller you are basically living off of those two moments which are tiny bright spots of a really ugly blemish that is the whole season. That one play, it should have never come to that, it should never be coming down to this
          I’m not living off of those plays. Those are the only two 4th qrt situations that I cango on this season for Flacco in close games.

          If our coaching staff wants to say Lock isn’t ready, and don’t want to bench Flacco for Allen.
          Then they need to make Flacco make a play at the end of the game.
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          • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
            I’m not living off of those plays. That’s all I can go on. What has he done late in games.

            If our coaching staff wants to say Lock isn’t ready, and don’t want to bench Flacco for Allen.
            Then they need to make Flacco make a play at the end of the game.
            dont go off of what he has done late in games, go off of what he has done the ENTIRE game, it will give you a better picture of his quality.

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            • Joe Flacco needs to be Benched. Joe is just another Case Keenum Kyle Orton 2.0. Joe is no more than a Back Up QB and to be honest I am not even sure of that Status. Once again just like last last year The Denver Broncos are a Team without a QB !!

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              • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
                dont go off of what he has done late in games, go off of what he has done the ENTIRE game, it will give you a better picture of his quality.
                Let’s just agree to disagree, your fine with running the ball and running clock and I want them to pass to attempt to put the game away
                And no I don’t care what happen the entire game. Ive seen too many QBs put together game clinching drives In my life after Playing bad games. ( Remember I’m a bronco fan Elway/ Tebow both put up stinkers for 4 qrts and then sealed the deal.)

                Brissett struggled all day today and pulled it out in the end.
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                • Originally posted by GMTD View Post
                  Agreed on all points. I would add that the best way to definitely determine one way or other whether Flacco was a drag on the team (as the majority believes), or the team a drag on Flacco (as some still claim); is by starting someone else at QB.
                  Excellent idea!!!:thumb:

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                  • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
                    Lets be straight here, whats our percentage on 3rd down? if it WAS a throw would you have faith flacco would complete it?
                    And there lays the problem. What are his chances of completing the pass? 50/50 at the very best? 40/60 is more like it.
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                    • Originally posted by Saddletramp View Post
                      And there lays the problem. What are his chances of completing the pass? 50/50 at the very best? 40/60 is more like it.
                      I’m fine with that. Our defense is 0 for 2 holding late leads this year, while Flacco is 2-2 on late 4th qrt drives.
                      I understand the point being made a out 3rd down conversions but we had horrible conversion rate vs the bears and still ended up converting in that game.
                      And like i said, it incomplete we punt and the D has to make a stop anyway.

                      It was a 3rd and 5 not 3rd and 15.
                      If the coaches want to keep Flacco as the starter then they need to let him attempt that play.
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                      • Originally posted by 58Miller
                        Sorry but I saw the team put up a fight against a team that just beat Watson and Mahomes in consecutive weeks.
                        I’m happy with a lot of the players effort.
                        The coaches not playing to win is the only thing that I’m bummed about. We competed.
                        I’d rather lose throwing punches then trying to dodge punches and hope to make it out of the round.
                        The coaches playing NOT to win is the problem. We need to play to win the game is what we’re am supposed to do.

                        And to play NOT to play to LOSE is what usually happens.

                        That’s where we went wrong.
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                        • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                          Let’s just agree to disagree, your fine with running the ball and running clock and I want them to pass to attempt to put the game away
                          And no I don’t care what happen the entire game. Ive seen too many QBs put together game clinching drives In my life after Playing bad games. ( Remember I’m a bronco fan Elway/ Tebow both put up stinkers for 4 qrts and then sealed the deal.)

                          Brissett struggled all day today and pulled it out in the end.
                          Let me ask you, which would you rather have: A QB that puts together an all around solid performance all game long putting up enough points and long enough drives to keep the defense fresh or, a QB that stinks up the entire game except for the last 2 minutes and may or may not score a TD at that point in time?

                          I never said i was fine running it there, you're missing the point.

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                          • The coaches finally got some leadership out of Flacco (that's probably not fair to Flacco) by frustrating him with the playcalling

                            Who knows, maybe the coaches adjust. After all Flacco is right about that call. And by saying something like he does help his 'leadership factor'. Probably wont amount to a whole lot this season but it's something
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                            • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
                              Let me ask you, which would you rather have: A QB that puts together an all around solid performance all game long putting up enough points and long enough drives to keep the defense fresh or, a QB that stinks up the entire game except for the last 2 minutes and may or may not score a TD at that point in time?

                              I never said i was fine running it there, you're missing the point.
                              Our offense put up 13 pts which is pathetic, the Chiefs put up that same amount at home vs the Colts ( they are a good team).

                              I never said I didn’t want a Qb who scored, that’s exactly what i want!
                              I also never asked for, traded for, or chose to start Flacco. This coaching staff is running him out there.
                              And regardless of who they go with I want us to go for a 3rd and 5 to seal the game, not run clock and hope our defense who is 0-2 on preventing go ahead fg drives.
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                              • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                                Our offense put up 13 pts which is pathetic, the Chiefs put up that same amount at home vs the Colts ( they are a good team).

                                I never said I didn’t want a Qb who scored, that’s exactly what i want!
                                I also never asked for, traded for, or chose to start Flacco. This coaching staff is running him out there.
                                And regardless of who they go with I want us to go for a 3rd and 5 to seal the game, not run clock and hope our defense who is 0-2 on preventing go ahead fg drives.
                                You're disregarding the point again. You just told me that only the plays they make at the final moments of the game matter not the entire game(you said you "dont care). Calling the defense 0-2 is disingenuous when they are being put into positions they shouldnt be(not to mention exhausted from an awful 3rd down conversion percentage). The bar is so low in denver as of late we dont just want a QB that can score, we want a QB that can even play to the league average. We have that and we'd pull together some wins. You act like calling a throw on 3rd and 5 is an auto win, its not. How many times have we had those types of downs and failed?

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