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  • ArchAngel
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    I recall Von Miller saying that he was adding weight to become a bull rusher, adding to his repertoire of speed moves. I seem to recall he tried that in 2013. Neither has worked out for him. His game is speed...period.

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  • Peerless
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    I love Von Miller - but he's making way too much money.

    It's not his fault though. He did earn it....After the dominating defensive performance against the Panthers in Super Bowl 50 - Elway knew at the end of the day that Miller was going to get paid. And as Miller ages - his production falls, while his yearly salary is out of this world high.
    Last edited by Peerless; 10-25-2019, 08:00 AM.

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Flacco’s gutless play last week drew a ton of criticism from the media and fans. Von Miller’s lack of impact went unnoticed. Von played 52 snaps with no tackles. The Broncos had a chance to beat a Mahomes-less Chiefs with a national audience. What did Von do? Nothing.

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  • JvDub95
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    Millers comments on Sanders leaving.......




    Jeff Legwold (@Jeff_Legwold) Tweeted:
    Broncos linebacker Von Miller on the Emmanuel Sanders trade: "I've been in business a long time now, it's crazy, been here nine years and seen a lot of stuff, a lot of different situations. That's just part of business, it was best for Emmanuel and best... https://t.co/q7ZpdYTIk1 https://twitter.com/Jeff_Legwold/sta...621275137?s=17




    I think he is still capable of being great and he needs to be the spark to get it going. He should have already too though.

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  • johnlimburg
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    Originally posted by arapaho View Post
    Yes he gets doubled and chipped... but he was doubled and chipped his entire career and was a terror and a focus of every offense game plan
    That is not entirely true. Yes, Von is obviously a focus of teams offensive game plans, but you cannot double team a player for an entire game, it just isn't sustainable for an offense to do that. Von has always had heaps of one on one opportunities throughout his career, he just doesn't seem to be winning them anymore. Look at the video below showing every single one of Von Millers career sacks coming into this year, very few are him beating double teams. And I am not saying that he didn't beat double teams for pressures, or hits, or anything like that, just that the big impact plays, the sacks and the forced fumbles, them big time plays always came when he seen one on one match ups, something he has been getting plenty of over the last 2 years. I am also not saying that it is a negative, or anything close to that, just that it shows Von has always had one on one opportunities, he just doesn't capitalise anymore when he does. Watching the video as well, he looks a lot heavier now than he did back then.

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  • arapaho
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    Considering the recent games

    I was always dead set against trading von, a generational player, but one that seems totally ineffective
    Yes he gets doubled and chipped... but he was doubled and chipped his entire career and was a terror and a focus of every offense game plan

    He’s not even a threat anymore whether that’s by effort, scheme or declining ability or a combination I would not be opposed to trading him for a LT

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Von had zero tackles vs KC according to ESPN. Dating back to the last two games of 2018, Von has 2.5 sacks in 9 games.Take that in for a moment. Von is no longer an elite player or doesn’t care enough to play hard, maybe both. I would be shocked if a team would give up a 1st round pick. At best a 2nd round pick considering his contract. I’m not convinced a team would offer a 2nd round pick based on the way he’s played over the last 9 games.

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  • cthroatgtr
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    Time to trade Von. I know many are against it, but the team will be a few years before they are truly competitive again and Von will be on the wrong side of his career before that happens. Still a very good football player but not the same explosive player he once was. If you can get a #1 pick or two, you do it. This is what NE has done for years, move on before players slip and provide no value for the money you pay them.

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by Murph2432 View Post
    Is there a site that shows how much Von and Mack have been double teamed?
    Next Gen tracks the double teams but not sure if you need a subscription. I’ve tried to access and haven’t found them. Sometimes a sports writer will post a snapshot mid season.

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  • Murph2432
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    Is there a site that shows how much Von and Mack have been double teamed?

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  • ArchAngel
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    Originally posted by DENVERSB50CHAMP View Post
    Von Miller should be a Denver Bronco For Life ! Von Miller is a PlayMaker !!
    When he WANTS to be. Lately, except for the last two games, his "want" was sorely lacking. Completely unacceptable considering what he is getting paid

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    Von Miller should be a Denver Bronco For Life ! Von Miller is a PlayMaker !!

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  • johnlimburg
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    I also was a huge fan of Von moving around, it seems like it has been a long time since we seen that. I went back and watched the front 7 play fromt he game against the Chargers, and again, Von is so good in playing the run. I am shocked from where he came from and how he has developed into an elite edge run defender. It isn't a pretty job, and I guess you could say he doesn't get paid for that, we want the impact plays, but he is great at it.

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  • dizzolve
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    I loved seeing Von forcing that bad pass which turned into our INT this week.

    Vic sent him to the right side. I'd like to see a lil more of Von getting moved around.

    Von is and has always been totally in River's head

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by Lumiere View Post
    Just because Hadez is the only one actively arguing his point, doesn't mean others don't disagree with his assessment.

    Many others just don't have time (or care enough) to get into a fruitless online argument.
    I had plenty of fruit today, so I’m good.

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