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  • RocketArm006
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    Seriously, Heuerman should be the starter. He just received an extension, has more experience and has shown catching ability.

    Fant would still have plenty of PT as the second TE, but at this point Heuerman is the better choice as the starter.

    Yes, I realize Fant is a rookie and he will develop over time. At this point on time, however, Heuerman should be the starter IMO.

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  • rst08tierney
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    Originally posted by Gsam View Post
    I am on the Anti Elway train right now, but people need to step back and remember that TE is the single longest developing position in the NFL. They need to learn, blocking, receiving, routes, ST etc... Very RARELY do you see a rookie TE come in and make a huge impact. Most TE's dont break out until they are 3-4 years in the league.
    I agree with this but typically a TE needs to catch the pigskin and if he doesn't have hands from the gods he better be able to block like Daniel Graham and FANT lacks too much.

    IMO I think NCAA footballs watered down and its just harder to draft. Some guys just KILL it in college and can not transition over into a mans game. Fant unfortunately is one of those guys.

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  • dizzolve
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    Originally posted by Narco View Post
    Fant is soft. I've watched enough football to recognize a player who, no matter how much physical talent he might possess, is limited by his mental weaknesses.

    I will be very surprised if Fant becomes anything other than an occasional receiver in the NFL. I don't see him ever being a difference maker or a match up nightmare or anything defenses need to prepare for.
    yeah. I can see him actually generating some stats .......... years away from now. But if I had to bet my life savings today -- I doubt he's a 'big game' player. But ...... I haven't lost all hope. Rookies can be strange creatures. His talent alone could earn him a mediocre career. .... which to most is a great living. 1st round grade though? It's questionable at best right now

    Sucks too - I really hoped and wanted

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    I seem to remember people calling Chubb a bust last season too.

    Maybe Fant is a bust...maybe not. Too soon to know.
    There was a thread that said Chubb was over-hyped. In 7 games Chubb had 15 solo tackles, 5 tackles for loss, 9 QB hits and 6.5 sacks.

    Chubb was an immediate contributor. Fant hasn’t contributed in a meaningful way. If anything he’s been a liability with poor blocking, dropped passes, turnover and penalties.

    It’s too early to call but he’s played poorly.

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Originally posted by Narco View Post
    Fant is soft. I've watched enough football to recognize a player who, no matter how much physical talent he might possess, is limited by his mental weaknesses.

    I will be very surprised if Fant becomes anything other than an occasional receiver in the NFL. I don't see him ever being a difference maker or a match up nightmare or anything defenses need to prepare for.
    Defenses are already preparing for him, very rarely do I see LB covering him, it’s almost always a DB. That’s significant because if it’s a S the defense will generally be in a Cover 1 or Cover 0 coverage which gives Sutton and Sanders those one on ones. If Heuerman was getting these reps we’d see a lot of two high safety looks and our offense would be even more short horizontal routes than it already is.

    There are very few LBs that can run with him so you won’t see them manning him up unless he’s running through their zone and defenses have very little reason to play zone because everyone aside from Sutton is struggling to create separation in man. Sanders has cooled down significantly and no one else has stepped up as the 3rd WR. Fant has been creating separation, he’s just not catching the ball real well at this point but I have a feeling he’s overwhelmed right now and next season when he’s more comfortable with the game speed and the offense we won’t be seeing these mistakes

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  • Hadez
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    I seem to remember people calling Chubb a bust last season too.

    Maybe Fant is a bust...maybe not. Too soon to know.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by Narco View Post
    Fant is soft. I've watched enough football to recognize a player who, no matter how much physical talent he might possess, is limited by his mental weaknesses.

    I will be very surprised if Fant becomes anything other than an occasional receiver in the NFL. I don't see him ever being a difference maker or a match up nightmare or anything defenses need to prepare for.
    Yeah, you would have said the same thing about Shannon Sharpe ( see his first two seasons) Elway would t let them cut him and kid went onto a HOF career.
    Some players are great at the start others take time.
    He needs to focus on catching the ball, looks scared but he is a rookie. Physically he has all the tools

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  • Narco
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    Fant is soft. I've watched enough football to recognize a player who, no matter how much physical talent he might possess, is limited by his mental weaknesses.

    I will be very surprised if Fant becomes anything other than an occasional receiver in the NFL. I don't see him ever being a difference maker or a match up nightmare or anything defenses need to prepare for.

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  • Oxygen Bandit
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    Fant has played like the team plays, no consistency but I think he will be good year 3

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  • River Side
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    Why we’re drafting anything else but OL in the first couple of rounds is beyond me. If the “best player” is not OL just trade down.

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  • Houshmazode
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    Originally posted by sra84 View Post
    I wasn't thrilled with Denver taking Fant but I am not giving up on him. He has much to improve upon but this offense has so many problems. I want to see how he develops the rest of the season and next year before labeling him a bust.
    Same.

    It's early in his career and this team flat out sucks. There's still hope.

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  • sra84
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    I wasn't thrilled with Denver taking Fant but I am not giving up on him. He has much to improve upon but this offense has so many problems. I want to see how he develops the rest of the season and next year before labeling him a bust.

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  • kerkhoff1
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    Fant had a terrible game. No doubt about it, to many inexcusable drops. He is clearly in his head. Hopefully he’s not mentally soft, and he can rebound.

    On the bright side, he was getting open, and he was beating defenders last night leading to 5 targets. Start hauling them in and he’s making an impact. Would like to see him used in RZ more. That’s where he made the biggest impact at Iowa

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  • RocketArm006
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    Fant is definitely a disappointment, but Heuerman has been conspicuously underutilized as well and he just got a contact extension. This team sure does like to invest a lot of capital into unproductive players.

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  • Dotst
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    Fant has 15 catches out of 24 targets for 159 yards. Honestly not as bad as it looks on paper. But damn he has dropped so many huge play

    I heard Flacco is supposed to love passing to tight ends but yet we have barely had any plays for them this season
    Last edited by Dotst; 10-18-2019, 05:45 PM.

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