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  • Sam_Z
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    Next man up, Brandon Allen. Looks an awful lot like Case Keenum.
    Last edited by Sam_Z; 10-28-2019, 10:00 PM.

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  • XterraRob
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    Denver: The team where players go to die.

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  • Peerless
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    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    On a complete side note, I think it's clear on that play Von missed that he's definitely lost a step and the time to trade him was last year or this past off season. You can tell he's playing better and harder now than he was earlier in the year, but he's not the same Von Miller I saw wreck offenses in 2012, 2014, and 2016-2018.
    I wonder if his added weight is limiting his playmaking ability. He bulked up earlier in his career and his play also suffered.

    But who knows, he isn't a spring chicken anymore...

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    On a complete side note, I think it's clear on that play Von missed that he's definitely lost a step and the time to trade him was last year or this past off season. You can tell he's playing better and harder now than he was earlier in the year, but he's not the same Von Miller I saw wreck offenses in 2012, 2014, and 2016-2018.
    I don’t think he wants to be there. Whether it’s a physical decline, lack of interest or a combination of both he’s not the same player. Will save further comments for the other thread.

    This thing unraveled and we’re in for the ride. The Broncos haven’t hit bottom yet. For now I think we’ve seen the last of Flacco.

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    To your point, I think what Flacco could have said was to the effect of "we're not playing well...I'm not playing well...I need to work harder with Rich on making our offense more dynamic and productive, and find plays that I'm comfortable with".

    I think Flacco more or less knew his season was over, and vented during the presser. While I appreciate his honesty, the facts show that, while there are issues with the offense across the board, Flacco has been a major contributor to its deficiencies.
    Agreed. Things snowballed and there’s plenty of blame to go around. The offense was 2-12 on 3rd down conversions before they decided to punt near the end of the game. There’s no way Fangio would believe they could convert there. Put the Colts on the field at mid-field or pinned back on the 5 yard line? All they needed was a stop there but they haven’t found a way to close games.

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  • mojo0730
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    Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    Urgency as in your highest paid defensive player wrapping up the QB to end the game?
    On a complete side note, I think it's clear on that play Von missed that he's definitely lost a step and the time to trade him was last year or this past off season. You can tell he's playing better and harder now than he was earlier in the year, but he's not the same Von Miller I saw wreck offenses in 2012, 2014, and 2015-2018.
    Last edited by mojo0730; 10-28-2019, 08:50 PM.

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post
    Losing teams sometimes keep losing because they play with a loser mentality.

    If the coaches stop coaching like losers maybe the players will play with a greater sense of urgency.

    I don’t know if Flacco can play much better than he has been, but the coaches can help by calling the game the way it should be called rather than according to their low expectations.
    Urgency as in your highest paid defensive player wrapping up the QB to end the game?

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by FL BRONCO View Post
    Why? Elway hasn't used much of the money we gained, can't it just carry over and cancel out?
    They pushed gauranteed money Into 2020. So we have a $10+ mil dead cap penalty in 2020 if he’s cut before the end of that season. If not double that amount.

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  • mojo0730
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    Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
    Most fans/media say they can’t stand the same old canned lines from players and coaches. When a player says what they’re really thinking they get blasted for being honest. Agree or disagree with Flacco’s comments he said what he believed.
    To your point, I think what Flacco could have said was to the effect of "we're not playing well...I'm not playing well...I need to work harder with Rich on making our offense more dynamic and productive, and find plays that I'm comfortable with".

    I think Flacco more or less knew his season was over, and vented during the presser. While I appreciate his honesty, the facts show that, while there are issues with the offense across the board, Flacco has been a major contributor to its deficiencies.

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  • Fantaztic7
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    I agree with your points

    I would take it a step further and say by making these comments in the presser he is actually making it more difficult for the team to come together and work as an unit to accomplish goals.

    What he said in the presser is the exact opposite of Leadership imo
    Most fans/media say they can’t stand the same old canned lines from players and coaches. When a player says what they’re really thinking they get blasted for being honest. Agree or disagree with Flacco’s comments he said what he believed.

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  • The Excellector
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    That really was the most unflacco thing I’ve ever seen. That is literally the first time he’s ever done that.

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  • The Excellector
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    He’s led two would be game winning drives this season. Both, after struggling earlier in the game.

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  • dizzolve
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    Originally posted by Peerless View Post
    Did average Joe care when we were playing KC a few weeks back, as he kept checking down time after time in important drive sustaining situations?

    Flacco can rip coaches all he wants. He is just as big of a problem as their play-calling. But like I said before, their play calling is probably because of average Joe himself.
    It really is a chicken and egg thing isn't it

    Bottom line is the buck stops at John Elway. Obviously whatever his philosophy is/was, it didn't work ............ unless these last 4 years were part of his plan

    ...no plan B .....

    if there was a plan B it didn't work because there's no doubt he went to it after the run we've had the past few seasons. Or there was never a plan B. You can't risk what we've been through without having a plan B. If we had a couple bad seasons as payment for plan A and Manning, I could live with that and accept it as a good deal for SB. But it's getting late

    Each week can have different people we can call out .......sometimes the same guys. On the other hand, there are guys who deliver 100% effort every play and I for one really respect that and miss that in my Broncos team as a whole. You can see it

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by The Excellector View Post
    This is the gist of it. If you're 2-5, how are you going to improve from that with a loser's mentality. That game was coached with a loser's mentality.
    After watching Flacco's presser I would say we have a QB with a loser mentality

    Maybe that explains why he ignores wide open guys and then at the end of the game when we need to push the ball down the field he is all about the check down.

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  • fraguela09
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    Fangio said the plan was the pick up a few yards then go for it on 4th.... when they couldn’t even gain a yard.... punt.

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