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I suppose it's possible Shurmur might have some 00 personnel formations in his playbook. If so, it would need five WRs active on game day. The most on one side of the formation would be four. In the interest of spread, it could be Twins to one side and Trips/Bunch to the other with the QB most likely in Gun which would be Empty. Or, one of the receivers could be at TB depth behind the QB under. Sutton, Jeudy, Patrick, Hamilton and Hamler? Doubt if we'd ever see anything like that. Doubt if D would put more than five in the box if spread.
"Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
I suppose it's possible Shurmur might have some 00 personnel formations in his playbook. If so, it would need five WRs active on game day. The most on one side of the formation would be four. In the interest of spread, it could be Twins to one side and Trips/Bunch to the other with the QB most likely in Gun which would be Empty. Or, one of the receivers could be at TB depth behind the QB under. Sutton, Jeudy, Patrick, Hamilton and Hamler? Doubt if we'd ever see anything like that. Doubt if D would put more than five in the box if spread.
I can see this but did Spencer play that badly last year? ImO Hamilton did but I thought our returner did OK for us. Alternatively we could look at Lindsay or another speed back on the field as well.
I suppose it's possible Shurmur might have some 00 personnel formations in his playbook. If so, it would need five WRs active on game day. The most on one side of the formation would be four. In the interest of spread, it could be Twins to one side and Trips/Bunch to the other with the QB most likely in Gun which would be Empty. Or, one of the receivers could be at TB depth behind the QB under. Sutton, Jeudy, Patrick, Hamilton and Hamler? Doubt if we'd ever see anything like that. Doubt if D would put more than five in the box if spread.
This is one reason I find the lineup of Sutton, Jeudy, KJ, Gordon and Lindsay really interesting. If Ds play DBs we can run the ball as I can't see LBs covering either Gordon or Lindsay. And Gordon, Lindsay and even KJ are legit threats running the ball. I really think this line up would stress opposing Ds in unique ways.
I want to see: Sutton/Albert O--Fant\Jeudy with Gordon or Lindsay in the backfield. Swap Albert O out for Hamler and send him flying down the middle of the field just to shake up the D every once in a while. If they start breaking a D down then also start swapping Fant out with depth WR's just to pour it on.
Personally I like Sutton, Jeudy, AO, Fant, and Gordon/Lindsay.
Come out in a typical 2 TE look to see what package the defense wants to use, run a dive, stretch, trap, split, or a bootleg. Then depending on the defensive package you can go no huddle and shift to a 5 wide look to get mismatches all over the field against a vanilla defense.
The entire offense is going to have to work hard on learning the playbook inside and out.
Personally I like Sutton, Jeudy, AO, Fant, and Gordon/Lindsay.
Come out in a typical 2 TE look to see what package the defense wants to use, run a dive, stretch, trap, split, or a bootleg. Then depending on the defensive package you can go no huddle and shift to a 5 wide look to get mismatches all over the field against a vanilla defense.
The entire offense is going to have to work hard on learning the playbook inside and out.
How would you block trap from that formation and whom would you trap in an odd or split front?
"Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
How would you block trap from that formation and whom would you trap in an odd or split front?
Personally I’d like to see with the RG trapping a 5/6 Tech since the DE is likely going to be expecting the TE to double with the RT as that’s generally what they see. But the RT would downblock the 3 tech while the DE gets a free release only to get hit by Glasgow while the TE releases up to the 2nd level to take out the LB. If it’s executed correctly the RB should have a one on one with the S.
I don’t like it as much against an odd front but if Fant is much improved as a blocker you could have the RG execute the down block the NT while the C takes the DE, RT releases to the ILB and Fant (or Albert O) seals the OLB. But a lot of it can get mucked up if the dline aren’t in the right gaps and I do question if our oline is physical enough to perform a down block in general let alone do it consistently to make it more than a one off play ran here and there. Right now they seem better suited to zone concepts and combo blocks rather than down blocking someone out of the play.
Personally I’d like to see with the RG trapping a 5/6 Tech since the DE is likely going to be expecting the TE to double with the RT as that’s generally what they see. But the RT would downblock the 3 tech while the DE gets a free release only to get hit by Glasgow while the TE releases up to the 2nd level to take out the LB. If it’s executed correctly the RB should have a one on one with the S.
I don’t like it as much against an odd front but if Fant is much improved as a blocker you could have the RG execute the down block the NT while the C takes the DE, RT releases to the ILB and Fant (or Albert O) seals the OLB. But a lot of it can get mucked up if the dline aren’t in the right gaps and I do question if our oline is physical enough to perform a down block in general let alone do it consistently to make it more than a one off play ran here and there. Right now they seem better suited to zone concepts and combo blocks rather than down blocking someone out of the play.
Those are good front side traps, not as complicated as the old school guard hole traps from the I. I think the one you describe could be run from Gun.
Risner did a lot of pulling last year. Don't know how well Glasgow or James can down block. We'll eventually see what Cushenberry can do.
"Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
Those are good front side traps, not as complicated as the old school guard hole traps from the I. I think the one you describe could be run from Gun.
Risner did a lot of pulling last year. Don't know how well Glasgow or James can down block. We'll eventually see what Cushenberry can do.
Yeah I think it can be very effective from the shotgun as generally the RB typically runs to the opposite side he lines up on, but he could still run this to either side so it can definitely catch defenses off guard. With the talent that we’ve acquired, the offense is in a position where we can force the defense to defend every blade of grass on the field at all times as any formation can go anywhere at anytime.
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