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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
    I just posted the same thing in the basketball forum. What a terrible year.
    We still have a few weeks to go for something to change. But I feel like they aren’t fully committed to their cause and point if they only temporarily bail and then come back. It doesn’t really get any point across if they only skip practice and don’t really hit the leagues bottom lines that they are trying to make the point too.

    I’ve already seen analysts says for basketball that if the players return to the court today that there will be major outcry against them.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Well now the season appears in jeopardy again and this time it has nothing to do with Covid.
    I just posted the same thing in the basketball forum. What a terrible year.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Well now the season appears in jeopardy again and this time it has nothing to do with Covid.

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  • AussieBronco76
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    Originally posted by EddieMac View Post
    The nfl has the advantage of playing only once weekly.. giving some space between games,, ( except stupid Thursday night )
    Yes but where I see a MASSIVE disadvantage for the NFL is each NFL Team having a 53 man roster and much more support staff who could potentially transmit the virus.

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  • Bronco51
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    Big 10 are having an emergency meeting to discuss whether or not to cancel fall sports. They would be the first of the power 5 to cancel.

    Now it looks like all Power 5 leaders are discussing this. Worries about being the last conferences cancel is part of this. Looks like announcements from all five are coming this week.
    Last edited by Bronco51; 08-09-2020, 08:21 PM.

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  • Hadez
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    Video about what Broncos are doing

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  • lvbronx
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    I think the best strategy is to try to come up with immediate and accurate testing and there seems to be progress in this area. If you don't have it you can't give it to anyone. I also read where dogs can detect COVID at 93% accuracy and 240 people an hour, which is one every 15 seconds. The problem sees to be it takes months to teach them.

    There hasn't been much actual research but "experts" have said they think face shields are at least as protective as face masks. There's been players that played with face shields. I seem remember a Bronco did...was it Tony Dorsett?

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  • orange crush75
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    Speaking of irresponsible. Did you guys see the massive party in Beverly Hills that ended in a death? 100's of people partied at a mansion that cost 10,000 a night !!! All for a unamed NFL player who just got drafted ........Chargers or Rams ??????

    I'll be honest I would have been tickled pink if it was a player who opted out because of covid . I wonder how may players were there and if any of those players were on the opt out list .


    Well crud, I forgot to add that the death was from gunfire . Apparently some gang bangers robbed a bunch of attendees, shots rang out 4 people shot I believe. 1 casualty the others are in critical / stable condition.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    The big problem you will get is there will be 2 groups of people that make up a minority but will scream their heads off.

    1 - The group who will not leave their house until life holds zero risk, they have already written off doing anything in 2020 and are too scared to move their life forward. These are the fragile types who generally need their hand held through life.

    2 - A small group of people who live for drama and enjoy the big news and drama of Covid, they will be glued to the TV every day and shouting at every little development, happily swallowing every little detail and regurgitating it as gospel.

    People like this will always frustrate people like us who just want to get on with life, need to work to pay the bills, and have some common sense of taking sensible measures without taking it to a stupid level of not wanting any part of life to move forward.
    So you are saying there is no group with folks like you, who seem to only see the other side of it, and also make themselves heard?

    I think you missed a very large group who just do their best, are cautious, and care about the lives of others as well as their own. They may not be too vocal, but they are not happy with the cavalier ways of some irresponsible types who seem to think they are good to go, and that's all that matters to them.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by bronx_2003 View Post
    The big problem you will get is there will be 2 groups of people that make up a minority but will scream their heads off.

    1 - The group who will not leave their house until life holds zero risk, they have already written off doing anything in 2020 and are too scared to move their life forward. These are the fragile types who generally need their hand held through life.

    2 - A small group of people who live for drama and enjoy the big news and drama of Covid, they will be glued to the TV every day and shouting at every little development, happily swallowing every little detail and regurgitating it as gospel.

    People like this will always frustrate people like us who just want to get on with life, need to work to pay the bills, and have some common sense of taking sensible measures without taking it to a stupid level of not wanting any part of life to move forward.
    yes I see this.

    I see on one side people buying too much into the dramatized news. There are people who will not go any further with their self education and run with it as this point.

    I see people not giving some of the medical professional the benefit of the doubt in realizing we are dealing with something new...least on a scale this large. We had really bad data set until sometime in May as we were only testing the people likely to have the worst cases of Covid19. There will be mistakes and every mistake does not mean a conspiracy.

    I been forced to put my head into hundreds of hours of science talk while gathering some of my own data because I feel the news is not doing a good job for the public in all of this. Even if we take away the dramatized parts of the news in all fairness we are not going to get the whole story in a 30-90 sec clip....it is on us to do some of our own research.

    There are another group of people who are living a very comfortable life getting paid while at home. Some are getting full pay and some are getting partial pay. I can see why they do not want to go back to how things were before. The people I know in this group (full pay and partial pay) are buying hard into stay at home option at this point. All of them tell me they are doing less work than they were before while "working at home" and the people I know are getting paid 80%-100% of their former paychecks. I can see why they like staying at home.

    This is not even yet including the people who been getting unemployment up until last Friday. In some cases they been getting more to not work than to work. Yet another group of people who up until Friday did not want people to go back to work.

    This is probably the most complex issues that most (all?) of us have ever seen. It is very difficult to express all the different components, opinions and things we have learned.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by Bronco51 View Post
    They went from 4 to 13 over the weekend. How is the NFL going to keep this from happening? I haven't seen how they're trying to keep players under lock and key.
    There is more to the link than just the below part I quoted fyi

    https://www.nfl.com/news/opt-out-dea...l-be-available

    Following the agreement, the NFL Management Council sent NFL teams an updated discipline schedule that included suspensions and fines for what is deemed "High Risk COVID-19 Conduct," such as going to bars, clubs and house parties without personal protective equipment or that involve greater than 10 people in attendance.

    Players will also be subject to fines for refusing to submit to virus testing ($50,000) and refusing to wear a mask, PPE or tracking devise or failing to maintain social distancing during team travel, which would be progressive fines of up to $14,650.
    So per example I have seen in another post if someone goes to a bar and get Covid19 not only will they lose money for quarantine but they will probably get fined and suspension game(s) check(s) lost.
    Last edited by Hadez; 08-04-2020, 11:19 AM.

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  • Bronco51
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    Could you provide a link to confirm this? I’m not seeing anything online!
    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/c...ers-postponed/

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  • Spice 1
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    And if there's never a vaccine or treatment? There are lots of things we've never found vaccines or treatments for, including the other Corona Viruses, right now the thought of either is just blind faith. At some point governments and people will need to start planning what life looks like in 1 or 2 years with no vaccine or treatment, because fear and blind faith can't last forever.
    Well, there were reasons for that, such as SARS-COV-1 and MERS-COV not being as transmissible and/or centralized geographically. They've actually used vaccine research from those two in engineering the new one. Moderna is talking about possible results by late October. Like some have already said though, the antibodies don't stay forever, though subsequent infections may or may not be reduced in severity. So, then you have a booster. People would still have to take it, though.

    As far as mutations, like Influenza, it seems that is a question of whether or not new strains would be significant enough to subvert an existing vaccine. From what I'm reading, so far there's no sign of that, because of the way the engineered vaccine targets the protein that allows the virus to attach to cells. There's not enough "variability" in mutations.

    The first results are encouraging. The coronavirus presents little variability, approximately seven mutations per sample. Common influenza has a variability rate that is more than double.
    "The SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is presumably already optimized to affect human beings, and this explains its low evolutionary change," explains Federico Giorgi, a researcher at Unibo and coordinator of the study. "This means that the treatments we are developing, including a vaccine, might be effective against all the virus strains."
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0803105246.htm

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  • Freyaka
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    I keep hearing the question asked "what if this never goes away"

    When it becomes apparent that it won't, we'll adjust accordingly, but we can't just refuse to take appropriate measures now because it might "be long term" and we don't want to do this forever...

    The longer you fight doing it, the longer this thing is likely to take and the more deadly it'll end up.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by orange crush75 View Post
    They've already said you can get it more then once. The antibodies only stay on your system for 3 months . This is why if you test positive you aren't supposed to test for 12 weeks . So the chances of a vaccine isnt great. then again people get the flu shot every year but still get the flu so theres that
    I was not sure how likely that was to happen, but having said that, it is a worrisome situation. And again, I see the flu as a different type of medical problem, though it does have a nasty side to it. But if as you say the virus can return to any of us, and given it's potency, it is a more serious threat than I thought.

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