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  • 58Miller
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    Good news yesterday some of the notable veterans who showed up to camp for their first tests included:
    Von Miller
    Justin Simmons
    Kareem Jackson
    Philip Lindsay
    Melvin Gordon
    Noah Fant
    Courtland Sutton
    Dalton Risner ( in overalls & no shirt lol)
    Graham Glasgow
    Garrett Bolles
    Juwan James
    AJ Bouye
    Shelby Harris

    Also our rookie class showed up to get fitted for equipment.
    Looks like the majority of our team’s players love of football outweighs their fears of Covid. We can’t fight the Covid if we hide from it, have to learn to live with it. Like any enemy you must have a respect for it but you have to make a stand, running is not an option forever.
    Last edited by 58Miller; 07-28-2020, 04:31 PM.

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  • CanDB
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    I hope The Broncs can get out of this thing with just one scratch so to speak. The Pats are losing some real talent, including 3 likely starters - Hightower, Chung and projected right tackle Cannon.

    My gut tells me we will be hearing about more and more players opting out before the season.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Floodgates are opening now for players opting out. Several from around the league. I’m sure many more will follow.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
    Are you saying that in spite of the 90% higher death rate per capita (in the US), once we test more, our death rate will rise drastically? Not sure if we are talking apples and oranges here. If so, we are heading for a HUGE spike.
    It seems based on the data per population that someone in Canada is less likely to test positive but more likely to die once they test positive compared to the USA.

    There could be a lot of reasons to this. This kind of data is what normal people talk about but scientists and data experts just see these numbers as indicators that more information is needed to explain differences.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    And that worked out so well for the Marlins who were also required to test daily and have way less contact.

    There’s no way to garuantee the NFL can’t limit this thing without a bubble.
    There's no way to guarantee it even with a bubble. And the Marlins (and MLB) don't have the strict protocols in place, meaning strict rules in the CBA, and actual plans to deal with positive tests. Evidently MLB teams can opt to play, without telling the opposition or MLB after positive tests.

    If Australian Rules Football can go, and hockey can go, there's no reason the NFL can't go.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    based on July 23 data
    USA
    deaths = 145384
    Population in millions = 328.2
    Deaths per million = 443
    Percentage of people testing positive that die = 3.6%

    Canada
    Deaths = 8870
    Population in millions = 37.9
    Deaths per million = 234
    Percentage of people testing positive that die = 7.89%
    Are you saying that in spite of the 90% higher death rate per capita (in the US), once we test more, our death rate will rise drastically? Not sure if we are talking apples and oranges here. If so, we are heading for a HUGE spike.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
    By my calculation, The USA death rate per capita is approx. 90% higher. And based on a chart I saw recently, Canada's cases are flat and reasonably low (outside of specific locales) and as a result, many areas are progressing towards cautious but active recovery.
    based on July 23 data
    USA
    deaths = 145384
    Population in millions = 328.2
    Deaths per million = 443
    Percentage of people testing positive that die = 3.6%

    Canada
    Deaths = 8870
    Population in millions = 37.9
    Deaths per million = 234
    Percentage of people testing positive that die = 7.89%

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by Rastic View Post
    I'm confused.

    My understanding is his wife was recently diagnosed with cancer. She'll likely be starting treatment soon which can severely wreck her immune system and put her at a high risk of infection with complications and/or death.

    If that is the case and I'm Peko, opting out would be the only choice. The only alternative would be to let her go through treatment on her own which would be nothing short of ridiculous. Family comes before everything - in sickness and in health.

    Again, maybe I am misunderstanding something.
    Sounds like he’s making a great choice with his wife’s condition

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by Rastic View Post
    The strange (good?) thing here in Ca is that cases are very detached from deaths. The lines used to follow closely but now that testing has gone up they are more and more decoupled with cases rising, peaking, and looking to be falling off, whereas mortality has been falling since early to mid-June, I think.
    Strange good for sure!! I believe a lot more people have had it, and the testing cannot keep up even though it has gotten better.

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  • Rastic
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    We flatten the curve in California and now we have a surge.

    United States has tested 52 million ( more than Canada’s population)

    Canada has tested 4 million.
    The strange (good?) thing here in Ca is that cases are very detached from deaths. The lines used to follow closely but now that testing has gone up they are more and more decoupled with cases rising, peaking, and looking to be falling off, whereas mortality has been falling since early to mid-June, I think.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    Based on cases per mil people it seems a 1 Canadian (2976 per mil) will test positive for Covid19 for every 4 people in the USA (12495 per mil) who test positive. Based on death rates someone in Canada (7.89%) is twice as likely to die from Covid19 positive test. USA (3.6%)

    Cases per mil taking from today numbers.

    Death rates taken from July 23 numbers

    I appreciate the concept of picking the state of CA but we can use cases per mil and death rate to compare areas of different population. I am sure like the USA ... Canada has areas doing better than other areas.
    By my calculation, The USA death rate per capita is approx. 90% higher. And based on a chart I saw recently, Canada's cases are flat and reasonably low (outside of specific locales) and as a result, many areas are progressing towards cautious but active recovery.

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  • Rastic
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    Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
    No I don’t agree, if I’m going to take a risk and it doesn’t have a good chance of working out I’m going to not do it.
    I'm confused.

    My understanding is his wife was recently diagnosed with cancer. She'll likely be starting treatment soon which can severely wreck her immune system and put her at a high risk of infection with complications and/or death.

    If that is the case and I'm Peko, opting out would be the only choice. The only alternative would be to let her go through treatment on her own which would be nothing short of ridiculous. Family comes before everything - in sickness and in health.

    Again, maybe I am misunderstanding something.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by CanDB View Post
    I agree....

    Plus we have pretty much flattened the curve.
    We flatten the curve in California and now we have a surge.

    United States has tested 52 million ( more than Canada’s population)

    Canada has tested 4 million.
    Last edited by 58Miller; 07-28-2020, 10:41 AM.

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by Rich_C View Post
    Right - but that is why I used Ontario as my example and not the east coast or some nonsense like that. The GTA is over 6.93 Million people with a fairly dense population. In fact let me put this in perspective in terms of what I have seen thus far in terms of how the Ontario Premier (equivalent to a US state Governor) handled things compared to the news I've seen in the USA. In a suburb of Toronto called Brampton there was a house party which hosted 200 people. This was the Premier's response (https://globalnews.ca/news/7222733/d...n-house-party/).

    So after re-opening without following the CDC guidelines the state of Georgia with a population of 10 million (2019) saw pretty substantial spikes in CODID-19 cases. When the Atlanta mayor did what much of Toronto and Ontario is doing (mandating masks in public) rather than the state Governor supporting what is effectively public heath he took the mayor to court (https://globalnews.ca/news/7182923/c...georgia-masks/).

    I just see these approaches as starkly different. with these different approaches I am also seeing different results as well.
    I agree....

    Plus we have pretty much flattened the curve.

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  • 58Miller
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    Originally posted by Rastic View Post
    Going to be cut or not for his family it was a reasonable thing to do.
    No I don’t agree, if I’m going to take a risk and it doesn’t have a good chance of working out I’m going to not do it, if Peko was a starter making big $ he would have a harder choice.
    Last edited by 58Miller; 07-28-2020, 10:36 AM.

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