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  • listopencil
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Pissing, moaning, whining, crying, bellyaching, bickering and arguing about Ja'Wuan James will get real old real fast.
    Originally posted by Rastic View Post
    I think we should just stick to grumbling, griping, and fussing.
    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Grousing and bleating?
    I plan on harping, nagging, groaning, blustering, and complaining so I'll be looking forward to doing that.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by dgobronco View Post
    Agreed a lot depends on who the team picks up and where/if Muti fits in. The reasons I think they may stick with Wilkinson are familiarity with the system, coaches, and players, reports of his coachability and progression, the fact he was given the opportunity to compete for the starting LT with Bolles this offseason (I'm assuming that's no longer the case with James opting out), and availability of (or lack of) better options. This is pure speculation on my part, but I would think they'd want to keep the upgraded interior intact rather than shift Risner outside and possibly create a weak spot inside.
    Wilkinson had twelve starts and came off the bench in three others, so he played in most of fifteen games. He can get better, worse or stay the same at RT. Under Munchak, who seems to like him, I'm inclined to think he'll improve given all the upgrades on the offense. Playing between Glasgow and Fant/Vannett and with Lock at QB will help a lot. Lock himself will benefit from an upgraded receiver corps.

    Wilkinson back to RT brings up the issue of Swing Tackle. Unless other players are brought in, we're looking at Jake Rodgers, Calvin Anderson, Quinn Bailey or Hunter Watts. Watts will probably end up on the PS. Don't know how Jake would do on the left. We won't be able to see them in preseason games, so we'll just wait for the roster and depth chart.

    If the starting O-Line is Bolles- "Route 66" - Cushenberry - Glasgow - Eli W., wonder who number six will be? If he stays healthy and takes to Munchak's coaching, it might be Muti. However, he's most likely a Guard only. I'm sure Munchak has shuffles for every contingency including Risner to RT. Denver will have at least eight O-Linemen, maybe more, and Munchak will have them all ready.

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  • dgobronco
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    If Eli is in the five, he can play inside or outside. Munchak will put each of the five at his best spot. Wilkinson had seven starts at RG in 2018 and looked OK. Last year he was pretty shaky at RT, especially in pass protection. If Denver signs a veteran Tackle, I doubt Eli will be in the five. In that scenario he would probably be active on game day as the Swing Tackle, unless Munchak thinks one of the other guys is better outside.

    It seems they want an interior of "Route 66", Cushenberry and GG. Risner is a possibility at T, but one that is probably a contingency plan. We have no preseason games to see these guys in action against another team. When the roster is set with a depth chart, we'll have a better idea of Munchak's evaluation.

    Muti's health and Munchak's evaluation of him will be a factor in possible shuffles. In the event Cushenberry is the starting Center, I'm inclined to doubt Munchak would want two rookies next to each other. Circumstances may dictate otherwise as the season unfolds, if a full season transpires.
    Agreed a lot depends on who the team picks up and where/if Muti fits in. The reasons I think they may stick with Wilkinson are familiarity with the system, coaches, and players, reports of his coachability and progression, the fact he was given the opportunity to compete for the starting LT with Bolles this offseason (I'm assuming that's no longer the case with James opting out), and availability of (or lack of) better options. This is pure speculation on my part, but I would think they'd want to keep the upgraded interior intact rather than shift Risner outside and possibly create a weak spot inside.

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  • GMTD
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    It's not all that surprising that someone with an injury history would have a more direct fear of Covid19 than others who have always been fit and healthy.

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  • lvbronx
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    If this was posted before, sorry, but in case no one heard both Wilkinson and Muti were activated from each's injury list.

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  • FR Tim
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Free agent possibilities include: Cordy Glenn, Demar Dotson, Jared Veldheer, Donald Penn, LaAdrian Waddle, Jordan Mills, J'Marcus Webb, Marshall Newhouse, T.J. Clemmings, etc.
    I was thinking more in the lines of someone heard a rumor that Elway had reached out to a team or specific player.

    Not a very inspiring list but maybe one or two better then I am thinking. That is assuming someone from the Broncos is actually making the calls about any of them.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    For a moment I was wondering if someone else was thinking "hey we roll this guys cap to next year and that will help us deal with the 19 mil cap hit when we release him in 2021!"

    Then I remembered that thought was as crazy as I figured when I first had it. I think you mean something else
    Who?

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
    Hard part about moving on from James is there is no “moving on” because of the cap implications.

    This years salary of $10M just gets moved to next year. And his buy out gets pushed to the year after. WhIch is complicated because it has a $6m dead cap attached.

    So “moving on” implications is two years after this season at best. Can’t cut him, can’t play him, can’t trade him. Awesome!

    Just focusing on how this problem gets resolved for this season is probably best to move on to. Great advice.

    Has anyone heard any rumors of possible free agent or trade options? Please share. I can only hope that silence means Elway has something brewing. At least I hope so.
    I do not have time to go through all the rosters but anyone who has acquired a OT this off-season and still has one with a large cap hit may be willing to trade the guy with a large cap hit....which is ok for us because we now all the sudden have LOTS of cap.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Time to move on from Ja'Wuan James. He made three starts and played 63 snaps last year which was 6.2%. I don't think he completed any of the games he started. As per the CBA, he has opted out of the 2020 season. It is my understanding that opting out is irreversible, so he's done for this season.
    For a moment I was wondering if someone else was thinking "hey we roll this guys cap to next year and that will help us deal with the 19 mil cap hit when we release him in 2021!"

    Then I remembered that thought was as crazy as I figured when I first had it. I think you mean something else
    Last edited by Hadez; 08-06-2020, 10:50 AM.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by FR Tim View Post
    Hard part about moving on from James is there is no “moving on” because of the cap implications.

    This years salary of $10M just gets moved to next year. And his buy out gets pushed to the year after. WhIch is complicated because it has a $6m dead cap attached.

    So “moving on” implications is two years after this season at best. Can’t cut him, can’t play him, can’t trade him. Awesome!

    Just focusing on how this problem gets resolved for this season is probably best to move on to. Great advice.

    Has anyone heard any rumors of possible free agent or trade options? Please share. I can only hope that silence means Elway has something brewing. At least I hope so.
    Free agent possibilities include: Cordy Glenn, Demar Dotson, Jared Veldheer, Donald Penn, LaAdrian Waddle, Jordan Mills, J'Marcus Webb, Marshall Newhouse, T.J. Clemmings, etc.
    Last edited by samparnell; 08-06-2020, 11:02 AM. Reason: typo

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  • FR Tim
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    Hard part about moving on from James is there is no “moving on” because of the cap implications.

    This years salary of $10M just gets moved to next year. And his buy out gets pushed to the year after. WhIch is complicated because it has a $6m dead cap attached.

    So “moving on” implications is two years after this season at best. Can’t cut him, can’t play him, can’t trade him. Awesome!

    Just focusing on how this problem gets resolved for this season is probably best to move on to. Great advice.

    Has anyone heard any rumors of possible free agent or trade options? Please share. I can only hope that silence means Elway has something brewing. At least I hope so.

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    He was medically cleared.

    Med_ically Cleared

    Again when James receives his PHD or Doctrine in medical science, I’ll believe him but for now I’m going to believe the medical staff and James was just playing sick.
    Not to get too deep into this but being medically cleared by the team staff doesn’t necessarily mean he’s good to go. We’ve seen a lot of team staffs over the years clear people they shouldn’t have, I remember after Rod Smith’s last season he got surgery on his hip and they were shocked he was able to even walk because of how bad it was. The Warriors medical staff cleared Kevin Durant to play, we saw how that turned out. Sure it’d be nice if he played through it but if he played badly or hurt himself even worse no one would be giving him props for playing injured, they’d be ragging on him for being a detriment to the team for playing while hurt.

    Opting out because of COVID is a bad move for us and probably his football career but it forces us to keep him on the roster next season when his contract gets reinstated even if someone balls out there or we draft a stud there in the offseason so it’s probably a good financial move for him.

    All in all I highly doubt he plays another snap here, possibly ever again.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Rastic View Post
    Noted.

    I think we should just stick to grumbling, griping, and fussing.



    It really is old news at this point where the future of the OL is concerned, I can concede that.
    grousing and bleating?

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  • Rastic
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Time to move on from Ja'Wuan James. He made three starts and played 63 snaps last year which was 6.2%. I don't think he completed any of the games he started. As per the CBA, he has opted out of the 2020 season. It is my understanding that opting out is irreversible, so he's done for this season.

    As far as Offensive Tackles are concerned:

    ~ Garrett Bolles played 1015 snaps last year which was 99.9%. He has started every game the last three seasons;

    ~ Eli Wilkinson played 835 snaps last year which was 82.19%. He had seven starts at RG in 2018, and twelve starts at RT last year;

    ~ Jake Rodgers has been in the league since 2015 on the practice squads of seven different teams (three times with the Steelers) He made the 53 man roster of a team for the first time last year in Denver and made his first appearance in a game and his first NFL start and played 118 snaps (11.61%) which is almost twice as many as Ja'Wuan James;

    ~ Denver also has Calvin Anderson, Quinn Bailey and Hunter Watts;

    ~ These guys are coached by a very good O-Line Coach, Mike Munchak;

    ~ It is not outside the realm of possibility that Denver will acquire another Tackle either via free agency or trade.

    Pissing, moaning, whining, crying, bellyaching, bickering and arguing about Ja'Wuan James will get real old real fast, and will detract from studying and speculating about the O-Line for 2020 which includes two very interesting rookie draftees (i.e., Lloyd Cushenberry and Netane Muti) and a great pair of starting Guards (i.e., Graham Glasgow and "Route 66" Dalton Risner)
    Noted.

    I think we should just stick to grumbling, griping, and fussing.



    It really is old news at this point where the future of the OL is concerned, I can concede that.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
    He was medically cleared.

    Med_ically Cleared

    Again when James receives his PHD or Doctrine in medical science, I’ll believe him but for now I’m going to believe the medical staff and James was just playing sick.
    Medically is actually four syllables.

    med/i/cal/ly

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