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  • Line cant be that bad when PL just ran for 100 coming off injury

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    • Originally posted by elway7777 View Post
      Hope we get to see Netane Multi this week with Eisner out.
      If "Route 66" can't go, it will probably be Austin Schlottmann. I would guess Muti and maybe Morris would be active.
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      • I just don't use brining bolles back. i would prefer to get younger at the position any way. he may have grown into a decent LT, but he really doesn't have that long his career, he will be 29 by the start of next season. outside of Anderson we do not really have many young pieces at OT. especially sense I consider Wilkinson a guard. he is obviously best suited to play on the interior in the nfl .
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        • Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
          I just don't use brining bolles back. i would prefer to get younger at the position any way. he may have grown into a decent LT, but he really doesn't have that long his career, he will be 29 by the start of next season. outside of Anderson we do not really have many young pieces at OT. especially sense I consider Wilkinson a guard. he is obviously best suited to play on the interior in the nfl .
          The goal shouldn't be to be young, it should be to be good. If Bolles has grown into a good piece, you keep him, because it's one less piece you have to fill next year. Say they move on from him, now you need an LT, but what happens if you draft one who also takes until year 4 to get it? Or what if they end up like several of the drafted tackles this year and can't make it onto the field?

          I have no problem with Denver drafting a tackle next, or even drafting two, but I wouldn't allow the starter they have to leave just with the goal of "getting younger" especially since 29 isn't that old.

          As for Wilkinson, I don't see him as a Bronco going forward, so whether he's a G or T can be for some other team to figure out.

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          • Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post

            The goal shouldn't be to be young, it should be to be good. If Bolles has grown into a good piece, you keep him, because it's one less piece you have to fill next year. Say they move on from him, now you need an LT, but what happens if you draft one who also takes until year 4 to get it? Or what if they end up like several of the drafted tackles this year and can't make it onto the field?

            I have no problem with Denver drafting a tackle next, or even drafting two, but I wouldn't allow the starter they have to leave just with the goal of "getting younger" especially since 29 isn't that old.

            As for Wilkinson, I don't see him as a Bronco going forward, so whether he's a G or T can be for some other team to figure out.
            The Goal should be the build an Offensive line that will last us 10+ years ideal. we have some great young pieces who i really like. Bolles was a bad pick. He hugely benefited from having a weak OT class. i also wouldn't necessarily call him good. i also don't know if really lasts more tehn 2-4 years in the nfl after his rookie contact. just seems like alot of risk to me

            Also alot of the higher drafted OT have found the Field, Thomas, Beckton, Jackson, Wills and Wirfs are all starting for there team. Wilson is on IR. so 5 of the 6 OT drafted in the first round are starting now. i don't see how that is having trouble seeing the field or making it on the field.
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            • Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
              I just don't use brining bolles back. i would prefer to get younger at the position any way. he may have grown into a decent LT, but he really doesn't have that long his career, he will be 29 by the start of next season. outside of Anderson we do not really have many young pieces at OT. especially sense I consider Wilkinson a guard. he is obviously best suited to play on the interior in the nfl .
              29 is not old. in any stretch of your argument.


              wth, "he doesnt have long hes 28 years old"
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              • Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post

                The Goal should be the build an Offensive line that will last us 10+ years ideal. we have some great young pieces who i really like. Bolles was a bad pick. He hugely benefited from having a weak OT class. i also wouldn't necessarily call him good. i also don't know if really lasts more tehn 2-4 years in the nfl after his rookie contact. just seems like alot of risk to me

                Also alot of the higher drafted OT have found the Field, Thomas, Beckton, Jackson, Wills and Wirfs are all starting for there team. Wilson is on IR. so 5 of the 6 OT drafted in the first round are starting now. i don't see how that is having trouble seeing the field or making it on the field.
                You're never going to build anything for 10 years, and if you're constantly trying to then you'll always end up failing. Look at any NFL roster, there are maybe 2 or 3 (maybe) who are ever with a team over that length of time. Denver only has 2 players remaining from 2015. You should aim to build a team for 5 year increments, and in that context a 29 year old tackle is not old at all.

                Whether Bolles was a good pick or not is inconsequential at this point in time. What's relevant is whether he's a good player now (he is) and how he'll perform next year. As for the high tackle picks from this season, how many years offer tackle depth like that? Will Denver be high enough to get one of those players?

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                • Noticing no one saying how bad the oline is after the N.E. game. Just gonna wait and see if we lose how many people that's quiet about how "anyone you put behind this line will get killed"
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                  • Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
                    Noticing no one saying how bad the oline is after the N.E. game. Just gonna wait and see if we lose how many people that's quiet about how "anyone you put behind this line will get killed"
                    With Bolles and Glasgow both on the All PFF team for the Week kinda hard to run that argument
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                    • Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
                      Noticing no one saying how bad the oline is after the N.E. game. Just gonna wait and see if we lose how many people that's quiet about how "anyone you put behind this line will get killed"
                      That's because the o-line, while not great, was made to look way way worse when Driskell was in there. Lock and Rypien haven't been sacked, or hit, like Driskell was when he was in there. It's almost like a QB can help or hinder an o-line, but it's just a lot easier to say the line is awful.

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                      • Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post

                        You're never going to build anything for 10 years, and if you're constantly trying to then you'll always end up failing. Look at any NFL roster, there are maybe 2 or 3 (maybe) who are ever with a team over that length of time. Denver only has 2 players remaining from 2015. You should aim to build a team for 5 year increments, and in that context a 29 year old tackle is not old at all.

                        Whether Bolles was a good pick or not is inconsequential at this point in time. What's relevant is whether he's a good player now (he is) and how he'll perform next year. As for the high tackle picks from this season, how many years offer tackle depth like that? Will Denver be high enough to get one of those players?
                        The top four Tackles were off the board when Denver picked Jeudy.
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                        • The Broncos beat up on the Pats. A number of them were helped from the field and didn't return. Part of that beating was administered by the O-Line via thirty-seven rushing attempts.
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                          • Originally posted by samparnell View Post

                            The top four Tackles were off the board when Denver picked Jeudy.
                            Exactly. But some fans still go on about them not drafting a tackle in the second round or third round, and those tackles haven't been able to get on the field. It's great to draft a tackle if you're high on one and you're imposition to take them. But trying to force a player of need as a fit when you pick is a recipe for a bad fit.

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                            • Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post

                              Exactly. But some fans still go on about them not drafting a tackle in the second round or third round, and those tackles haven't been able to get on the field. It's great to draft a tackle if you're high on one and you're imposition to take them. But trying to force a player of need as a fit when you pick is a recipe for a bad fit.
                              If one of the top four Tackles had been available, it would have been interesting to see what they would have done. The WR position was quite deep, so others would have been available. It is worth noting that Ja'Wuan James opted out over two months after the draft. Elway & Co. were criticized for sticking with Bolles, and I haven't heard much credit given for that. Was always skeptical of the "competition" for LT between Bolles and Wilkinson. Glad they signed Dotson and seem to be grooming Anderson to be Swing Tackle. We'll see what happens next draft. If they draft a Tackle, I'm inclined to think it will be just one after re-signing Bolles.
                              "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                              • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post

                                With Bolles and Glasgow both on the All PFF team for the Week kinda hard to run that argument
                                ....only if you buy into the PFF grading system for Olinemen
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