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Until we get a TRUE qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message!
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Originally posted by broncolee View Post
I’m fine with Lock getting time to develop.
I just think Justin Fields should be a consideration, if he becomes an option. By becoming an option, I mean he’s available when the Broncos pick or at the very least they don’t have to sell the farm to move up to get him.Until we get a TRUE qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message!
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Across the League, the second year is the critical year in player development. Drew Lock has substantially regressed in every passing category in his second year. Don’t blame the new system. A decent quarterback in a bad system will still have more touchdowns, a higher completion percentage, and fewer picks than Drew Lock this year.
Over the final 10 games, Lock must have 15+ TDs, <7 INTs, and a 65%+ to earn the starter job next year.
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Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View PostAcross the League, the second year is the critical year in player development. Drew Lock has substantially regressed in every passing category in his second year. Don’t blame the new system. A decent quarterback in a bad system will still have more touchdowns, a higher completion percentage, and fewer picks than Drew Lock this year.
Over the final 10 games, Lock must have 15+ TDs, <7 INTs, and a 65%+ to earn the starter job next year.
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Originally posted by GiddyupGetEm View PostAcross the League, the second year is the critical year in player development. Drew Lock has substantially regressed in every passing category in his second year. Don’t blame the new system. A decent quarterback in a bad system will still have more touchdowns, a higher completion percentage, and fewer picks than Drew Lock this year.
Over the final 10 games, Lock must have 15+ TDs, <7 INTs, and a 65%+ to earn the starter job next year.sigpic
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Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
I don't see why you say that. Some starters in the nfl don't have 65% completion rate. He needs to show improvement. You could argue he has gone against 3 very good defenses. Pit, Ne Kc are all top ten d this year. The titans are a middle of the pack d. But he also had a game coming off injury and a snow game where any qb would struggle in. There are gonna be up and downs for any qb. Also stats definitely don't show the whole story.
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Brock Osweiler and Trevor Siemian both had more opportunities to succeed than Lock. I am careful for what I wish for, those 2 guys are not playing anytime soon for anybody.
If in the next 4 games we see awful QB play or no improvement on second and third reads and obviously errant passes, then yes I think Elway and Fangio take a step back and say this isn't the direction we need to head. That might get all three fired or benched.
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These are rookie growing pains, or Lock's a bust, but we won't know until his trial period is up and that's not now. It's sheer arrogance to claim that one "KNOOOOOWS"! You don't know crap! There are plenty of successful QB who struggled in their first years: Fran Tarkenton, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, etc. Should their teams have given up on them because they threw picks and their numbers were bad?
We can all see that Lock has some of the traits of a good leader, and I don't believe we have witnessed his ceiling -he can and will improve, because he's still young and he has a good work ethic.
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Originally posted by CanDB View Post
John Elway, in his first year, including 10 starts...7 TDs and 14 pics. QB Rate of 54.9
Drew Lock in his first 9 games.....8 TDs and 7 pics....QB Rate of 76.5
Sure, not supposed to go back that far, but those weren't good stats, period. And I'm sure he looked like a project.
I'm not sure what to think about Lock this year. I definitely thought his play would be much better than it is.
Regarding Elway in his first year. I remember many fans, not just Bronco fans thinking WOW, the Broncos pulled off one of the greatest acquisitions of a high end athlete in sports history. Then the chinks in Elway's armor began to appear as his first season progressed as a starter. It didn't take long for many Elway fans in general to start saying " wasted money, wasted trade, he's a loser, get rid of him while he still has some value.
Sometimes when people, fans, get what they wish for, they end up with huge regrets. I say wait until the end of this season to make any concrete decisions regarding anything about negativity in the Denver Bronco organization.
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I think we have to stick with Drew for the season, let him get his shot. I think he needs a break out game or two. Hopefully he will improve, if he really starts to struggle then he needs to be benched. I don't think it would be the right to bench him immediately without giving him a legitimate chance to improve.
He might go on a winning streak, and have some really great games?
Could you imagine if he gets benched, and gets cut from the Broncos, and then goes to another team, and has a great career.
We have to try to develop a young QB.
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Originally posted by Capt. Jack View PostI think we have to stick with Drew for the season, let him get his shot. I think he needs a break out game or two. Hopefully he will improve, if he really starts to struggle then he needs to be benched. I don't think it would be the right to bench him immediately without giving him a legitimate chance to improve.
He might go on a winning streak, and have some really great games?
Could you imagine if he gets benched, and gets cut from the Broncos, and then goes to another team, and has a great career.
We have to try to develop a young QB.
Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016
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Originally posted by L.M. View PostThese are rookie growing pains, or Lock's a bust, but we won't know until his trial period is up and that's not now. It's sheer arrogance to claim that one "KNOOOOOWS"! You don't know crap! There are plenty of successful QB who struggled in their first years: Fran Tarkenton, Terry Bradshaw, John Elway, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, etc. Should their teams have given up on them because they threw picks and their numbers were bad?
We can all see that Lock has some of the traits of a good leader, and I don't believe we have witnessed his ceiling -he can and will improve, because he's still young and he has a good work ethic.
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Originally posted by L.M. View Post
Like Tampa Bay dumping Steve Young, then the Niners won a SB with him. That would be a nightmare.
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