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Originally posted by mojo0730 View PostYou're not developing Lock behind this offensive line. Even when he comes back, his shoulder will be an issue all season long and I would surmise that he'll wind up on IR at some point sooner or later. They're not doing anything to protect the quarterback and the injuries are mounting.
And the Cowboys will most definitely give up Prescott for the right price. If they 100% believed in him they would have signed him to a long-term extension by now.
Lazy thinking. The oline had given up 1 sack in 7 games until lock got hurt. Its not the OL its the QB.
The oline isn't amazing by any means and RT is a big big problem. But saying lock cannot develop behind this line is lazy hyperbole.So far:
FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. BiadazzCenter, 3. OT
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Originally posted by mojo0730 View PostI think any top-10 quarterback is worth mortgaging the farm. If you have a top-5 list which includes say, Mahomes, Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, and Brees (the latter two's ages not withstanding), and then the next tier which includes Roethlisberger, Jackson, Watson, Ryan, and Prescott...then yes I would say all those quarterbacks would be worth mortgaging the future over, even if Prescott isn't as good as Mahomes.
Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016
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Originally posted by Bronco51 View PostThat's the problem I see. I don't know if this organization can build a solid squad before Lock's contract is up. So, they won't turn him into a 35-40 million dollar QB. Then what? Keep him and pray? Or hope you can draft one or go the FA route? I just don't know if we'll see his full potential any time soon.sigpic
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostLazy thinking. The oline had given up 1 sack in 7 games until lock got hurt. Its not the OL its the QB.
The oline isn't amazing by any means and RT is a big big problem. But saying lock cannot develop behind this line is lazy hyperbole.
Also, and I hate to say this, but... Prescott >>> Lock.sigpic
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Originally posted by mojo0730 View PostAny top-10 quarterback moving forward will likely command $35-40 million a year easy. So if we're thinking we're going to avoid that somehow AND obtain a quarterback who can compete with the likes of Mahomes, then I think that's a mistake.
Again, I've seen Dak play. I believed in him from college. I think he's a great quarterback that can elevate the team. Again, he's not Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, or in that tier. But he's certainly an upgrade at the position over anything we've had since Manning retired. And I think he can be a Matt Ryan/Phillip Rivers (in his prime)-type quarterback.
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Originally posted by Bronco51 View PostThat's the problem I see. I don't know if this organization can build a solid squad before Lock's contract is up. So, they won't turn him into a 35-40 million dollar QB. Then what? Keep him and pray? Or hope you can draft one or go the FA route? I just don't know if we'll see his full potential any time soon.
Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016
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Originally posted by mojo0730 View PostI just don't see Lock making it through the season when he returns. Shoulder injuries for quarterbacks tend to linger and we're losing players at the drop of a hat. And the type of offense we're running is almost designed not to give the quarterback any protection.
Also, and I hate to say this, but... Prescott >>> Lock.
I tore my labrum in my shoulder and until I had surgery it severely affected my slapshot in hockey. I think we both hope you are incorrect here, but it sure looks that waySo far:
FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. BiadazzCenter, 3. OT
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Originally posted by underrated29 View PostLazy thinking. The oline had given up 1 sack in 7 games until lock got hurt. Its not the OL its the QB.
The oline isn't amazing by any means and RT is a big big problem. But saying lock cannot develop behind this line is lazy hyperbole.
He’ll get better at it regardless, the kid works hard. But the injuries and poor oline will slow down that development. I hope he’s able to come back after the Jets game because he’ll inject some life into the offense and get valuable reps to improve his game. The good thing is, he is still able to work on the mental part of the game even if he isn’t playing. Hopefully the time off allows him to continue to build upon the mental aspects of playing QB like reading defense pre and post snap, identifying blitzes and calling out appropriate protections, getting the ball to his hot routes. Things of that nature that really make a QB great. The physical things will come in time and if he can get further along on the mental side it’ll lessen some of those growing pains.
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Going all in for a vet like Prescott or Stafford (no thanks) will demand an expensive upgrade to the line, and rightly so. I'd rather invest in the trenches rather than riding the carousel of QBs we've been on.
On offense, we're currently a OT short of fielding a reasonable line. Not great by any stretch but reasonable. With a RT and maybe a RG, that would go a long way.
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Originally posted by Megalodon30 View PostI concur. Dak does not seem like a top tier QB. He really wouldn't be as good here as he is with the squad that Dallas has built.
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