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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post

    LaFleur is greatly assisted by Rodgers

    For every McVay there are a lot of guys like Vance Joseph and Adam Gase who do not work out.

    If we move on from Vic we are a losing team with no consistency as we keep changing coaches and coordinators. IMO we will be one new guy failure away from looking at a decade of losing that Det and Cleveland are still trying to recover from. Some teams took decades to recover from.
    LaFleur will defintelly get his main test once Rodgers leaves but he still looks good. Joseph was a bad hire he had hardly any time as a DC then gets HC. he was to rushed. then again Mcvay had limited experence also. either way i expect Joseph to get a second chance at some point. i still really like Eric.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post

    i don't know. i think most HC are let go for reason. you hardly see a super star Coach let go. i think the last one was Ried. i think it is better to try to find the next stud. like Mcvay, Shanahan, LaFleur look like the next set of HC and they are all first time HCs
    LaFleur is greatly assisted by Rodgers

    For every McVay there are a lot of guys like Vance Joseph and Adam Gase who do not work out.

    If we move on from Vic we are a losing team with no consistency as we keep changing coaches and coordinators. IMO we will be one new guy failure away from looking at a decade of losing that Det and Cleveland are still trying to recover from. Some teams took decades to recover from.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post

    Eric was playing for the Colorado Buffs when I still rooted for them. Loved watching him play in college...there was a game against Nebraska that he fumbled and then went on to dominate the game after the fumble. It is exactly the kind of mentality I hope to see from anyone after a big mistake is made...learn and grow. I rooted for him in the NFL too. As much as I hate to see the Chiefs do well I guess my rooting for him with the Chargers as a player has help ease me into rooting for him at KC.

    Not yet sold on his ability to be a HC. It is a tough gig. IMO if we move on from Vic I think we need experience at the HC position and bright mind at the OC. Eric has no reason to leave KC for that kind of opportunity.
    i don't know. i think most HC are let go for reason. you hardly see a super star Coach let go. i think the last one was Ried. i think it is better to try to find the next stud. like Mcvay, Shanahan, LaFleur look like the next set of HC and they are all first time HCs

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    If we move on from Vic I really hope we get Eric Bieniemy to be the hc. I feel the man is going to be a really good head coach in this league. He has experience with great offenses and he went to school at cu so he knows the area well.
    Eric was playing for the Colorado Buffs when I still rooted for them. Loved watching him play in college...there was a game against Nebraska that he fumbled and then went on to dominate the game after the fumble. It is exactly the kind of mentality I hope to see from anyone after a big mistake is made...learn and grow. I rooted for him in the NFL too. As much as I hate to see the Chiefs do well I guess my rooting for him with the Chargers as a player has help ease me into rooting for him at KC.

    Not yet sold on his ability to be a HC. It is a tough gig. IMO if we move on from Vic I think we need experience at the HC position and bright mind at the OC. Eric has no reason to leave KC for that kind of opportunity.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post

    Watched the game again. Demar Dotson calmed things down on the right as Bolles has done on the left. Cushenberry improves with each game. Risner and Glasgow need to step up and play better which is entirely likely. Better O-Line chemistry/unit cohesion is a real possibility.

    Brett needs to take care of Mr. Ball. Other than that, he is doing a good job. Depth is being tapped at the skill positions due to injuries which is true on the other side of the ball as well. Defense must create viable pass rush. That requires blitzing which in turn requires Secondary to adjust.

    It's interesting.
    I thought things looks better as well. You know more details than I do so it is nice to see you say the things you brought up in posts in this thread.

    Hope we continue to grow. The first few games were brutal tests for the OL. More difficult tests than the Jets are coming. IMO we need some better play calling to help these young guys grow.

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  • Ear2dastreets
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post
    If we move on from Vic I really hope we get Eric Bieniemy to be the hc. I feel the man is going to be a really good head coach in this league. He has experience with great offenses and he went to school at cu so he knows the area well.
    He will need his guy at qb.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    If we move on from Vic I really hope we get Eric Bieniemy to be the hc. I feel the man is going to be a really good head coach in this league. He has experience with great offenses and he went to school at cu so he knows the area well.

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  • listopencil
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Demar's pass blocking was good. He has a lot of length and knows how to use it. Bruce Arians had made some uncomplimentary statements about his run blocking, so I was looking at that. His base away and scoop blocks prevented back side pursuit from the guy he was blocking. When he was play side, his run blocking was OK. His reach blocks seemed adequate and he uses his size to screen defenders away from the ball carrier. I'd like to see him called on to make a down block on a 3 tech. He's tall, so taking a lead step from a 3-point might be a bit of a challenge. Overall this may result in an upgrade at RT.

    Jake Rodgers was active at NYJ. Before Eli Wilkinson went to IR, Dotson was on the depth chart at RT and Calvin Anderson was on it at LT. I think Rodgers has been repped at RT. He can be activated once more before going through waivers. They may prepare Anderson to be a Swing Tackle on game day. Even then, I think teams are required to have eight O-Linemen active. There are two other Tackles on the PS.
    I would certainly settle for good pass pro and ok run blocking. That is an upgrade. If we could just have the line settled out for the year (as you mentioned) then the team can make some progress on Offense even with all of our missing pieces. I'd say keep Dotson as a rental at RT this year and draft a guy next year that can start at RT as a rookie but could compete for the LT spot. If Bolles looks competent for the entire year, maybe franchise him next year and see what happens.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by listopencil View Post
    I still haven't been able to watch anything but highlights of that game. Was Dotson promising? The plays I've seen he looked all right.
    Demar's pass blocking was good. He has a lot of length and knows how to use it. Bruce Arians had made some uncomplimentary statements about his run blocking, so I was looking at that. His base away and scoop blocks prevented back side pursuit from the guy he was blocking. When he was play side, his run blocking was OK. His reach blocks seemed adequate and he uses his size to screen defenders away from the ball carrier. I'd like to see him called on to make a down block on a 3 tech. He's tall, so taking a lead step from a 3-point might be a bit of a challenge. Overall this may result in an upgrade at RT.

    Jake Rodgers was active at NYJ. Before Eli Wilkinson went to IR, Dotson was on the depth chart at RT and Calvin Anderson was on it at LT. I think Rodgers has been repped at RT. He can be activated once more before going through waivers. They may prepare Anderson to be a Swing Tackle on game day. Even then, I think teams are required to have eight O-Linemen active. There are two other Tackles on the PS.

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  • listopencil
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Watched the game again. Demar Dotson calmed things down on the right as Bolles has done on the left. Cushenberry improves with each game. Risner and Glasgow need to step up and play better which is entirely likely. Better O-Line chemistry/unit cohesion is a real possibility.

    Brett needs to take care of Mr. Ball. Other than that, he is doing a good job. Depth is being tapped at the skill positions due to injuries which is true on the other side of the ball as well. Defense must create viable pass rush. That requires blitzing which in turn requires Secondary to adjust.

    It's interesting.
    I still haven't been able to watch anything but highlights of that game. Was Dotson promising? The plays I've seen he looked all right.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
    I'm soooo glad for this post. I get so tired of people saying oline this and oline that. Excuses people makeup about how bad the line is. People we will NEVER have 5 1st rd picks on the oline.
    Watched the game again. Demar Dotson calmed things down on the right as Bolles has done on the left. Cushenberry improves with each game. Risner and Glasgow need to step up and play better which is entirely likely. Better O-Line chemistry/unit cohesion is a real possibility.

    Brett needs to take care of Mr. Ball. Other than that, he is doing a good job. Depth is being tapped at the skill positions due to injuries which is true on the other side of the ball as well. Defense must create viable pass rush. That requires blitzing which in turn requires Secondary to adjust.

    It's interesting.

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  • Ear2dastreets
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    Originally posted by Peerless View Post
    Nice post - especially about the O-Line.

    Anyone who thinks Elway hasn't tried to develop/build the o-line isn't looking at all of those facts. Now, has it all worked out? No. But he has been trying to get it right through the draft, free agency, etc.
    I'm soooo glad for this post. I get so tired of people saying oline this and oline that. Excuses people makeup about how bad the line is. People we will NEVER have 5 1st rd picks on the oline.

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  • Zealander
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    I would be so dissapointed to see Elway let go...

    He has been KILLING it these last few drafts. I really believe we are headed in the right direction. I love the composition of this team right now and that is all the way up to the old school coaching staff. We've been hit with the injuries... give these guys another off season and we'll head in the right direction.

    I am hoping we can lock von up for career with a team friendly contract.

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  • BR0NCOFANATIC
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    Elway has bought in more than enough talent for us to have a competitive football team. The only area he has neglected is the OL but due to injuries and James sitting out it's hard to tell how good they could be. I like Fangio as a coach. He has only screwed up with the T.O but I blame his assistant coaches as well on that one. We can't just keep changes coaches every year because lack of consistency is a reason for failure with any team.

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  • Hadez
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    Our offensive coaches probably do not spend much time looking at what other teams do successfully that they could do but Chargers just shredded TB defense on first drive with short passing and max protection on long passing.

    It is like the Chargers actually knew that TB could rush the passer and came prepared.

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