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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I've coached many high school games myself, so I know what you're saying. Although usually I'm so locked into what I need to do, I don't get the chance to just watch the game.
    Well, there's scouting, too, but that's not a leisurely activity either.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Have seen so many high school football games, standards might be low.
    I've coached many high school games myself, so I know what you're saying. Although usually I'm so locked into what I need to do, I don't get the chance to just watch the game.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I like seeing the new guys, but the games tend to get very very sloppy as they make substitutions, and the play calling is so vanilla...with good reason of course. So it's tough to watch as the game goes on. I always do, but it's not easy to watch.
    Have seen so many high school football games, standards might be low.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    I love preseason games. Always watch them, if they are broadcast. It gives a chance to see some guys who might end up on the PS where they usually aren't seen.
    I like seeing the new guys, but the games tend to get very very sloppy as they make substitutions, and the play calling is so vanilla...with good reason of course. So it's tough to watch as the game goes on. I always do, but it's not easy to watch.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I really hope they don't do that. As boring as preseason is, players need to go against other players going full speed. Practice doesn't simulate anywhere close to that tempo and speed. And practice doesn't have the hitting that games do.
    I love preseason games. Always watch them, if they are broadcast. It gives a chance to see some guys who might end up on the PS where they usually aren't seen.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    There has been talk about reducing or eliminating preseason games as part of a plan to expand the regular season and enlarge the playoffs. The elimination of the preseason games this year and its effect on injuries may inform the discussion.
    I really hope they don't do that. As boring as preseason is, players need to go against other players going full speed. Practice doesn't simulate anywhere close to that tempo and speed. And practice doesn't have the hitting that games do.

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  • beastlyskronk
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    I think it goes beyond the new rules and COVID stuff. Obviously that’s still a factor but a lot of these guys overtrain in the offseason and don’t rest like they should and even though the offseason activities aren’t as tough, they’re going through it with a lot more mileage. Some guys can handle it pretty well but not all of them. Von seemed to go at it harder this offseason than any other, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that he had a freak injury. We see less and less broken bones and more and more soft tissue/non contact injuries.

    Some injuries you can’t do anything about, like Lock for example. He hurt his thumb because he hit his hand on a helmet during his follow through and this year he gets thrown down onto his shoulder awkwardly. Well you can do something about it, protect him better but he can’t do anything there.

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  • samparnell
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    There has been talk about reducing or eliminating preseason games as part of a plan to expand the regular season and enlarge the playoffs. The elimination of the preseason games this year and its effect on injuries may inform the discussion.

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  • rst08tierney
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    Remember.

    Shanahans last 2 years here were filled with injuries because his camps were soft and VET friendly 2007,2008.

    Pre Season is beyond important to get the body ready for a full 16 weeks of abuse.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    I do not have the information to explain what is going on but if it were just these things it would be affecting all teams. We can pick out a handful of teams going through it but probably over half the teams are having minimal/normal injury year.

    It is a league wide issue though. Here's a story on the various injuries around the league, there's a lot of them.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/thursday-s-...ews-for-week-4

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by Humberg View Post
    I agree that it’s a combination of things. But I would also throw in that the strength and conditioning program has to be looked at.

    Even without preseason, otas etc you can still get a good conditioning program to make joints more flexible (sprains), muscles more conditioned (strains, pills and cramps) and such. Maybe they look at it and say “there was nothing more we could do” but I think it has to be in this conversation.

    Did we prepare our guys as well as other teams did to go out and play without injury?
    I would agree if it were just a Denver problem. But there's a massive number of strains, tweaks and pulls around the NFL right now. It's a league conditioning problem, not just a Broncos conditioning problem.

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  • Hadez
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    Originally posted by roushmartin6 View Post
    I think it's a combination of no otas, very little training camp, no preseason and horrible luck
    I do not have the information to explain what is going on but if it were just these things it would be affecting all teams. We can pick out a handful of teams going through it but probably over half the teams are having minimal/normal injury year.

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  • Rastic
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    Clearly its a combo. Ever since the CBA has allowed for less contact drills during OTAs injuries have gone up, if I am not mistaken.

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  • Peerless
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    It's a combination of bad luck and lack of pre season physical prep.

    All of the 'virtual' training camps and lack of conditioning up to the season due to the restrictions has definitely played a part in the injuries...

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  • Humberg
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    I agree that it’s a combination of things. But I would also throw in that the strength and conditioning program has to be looked at.

    Even without preseason, otas etc you can still get a good conditioning program to make joints more flexible (sprains), muscles more conditioned (strains, pills and cramps) and such. Maybe they look at it and say “there was nothing more we could do” but I think it has to be in this conversation.

    Did we prepare our guys as well as other teams did to go out and play without injury?

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