I dont understand you all...

[Woody]

When Shanahan wins Super Bowls, and starts this season 4 - 0, hes a genius. He loses some games with 2 backup linemen, a 3rd string QB, 2 backup linebackers, a secondary thats below average when healthy, and you all want him fired? I think Shanahan has done a brilliant job. Every game we've lost has been real close and could have went either way. Even the Baltimore game was 9 - 6 going into the 4th quarter. Tonight we played a good football team missing everything I named above, and without a kicker, and still had the lead with 30 seconds left. Its certainly not our 2nd and 3rd string players keeping our games close, so what is it? Its gotta be coaching.

Tonight's game was lost due to not having a kicker, and lets face it, Brady just made a good throw on that TD with 30 seconds left. Sure O'neil was out of position, hence I was talking about our below average secondary.

If we would have gotten field goals those 2 times we punted the ball from the Patriots 30 - 35 yard line, due to not having a kicker, the outcome could have been different.

[SoCalBroncosFan]

We are not taking anything away from the Pats. They won. And you are right, if our team had been healthy, it probably would have been a different story.

But, because our team was not heatlhy, that made Shanahan's decisions all the more important. And lets face it, he made some very poor ones.

[JED Bronco]

Here is a quote for you!

"I told our football team that I don't know what to say," said Head Coach Mike Shanahan. "I thought we fought extremely hard. The bottom line is that in the end, we didn't get it done and they did."


This is a coach who doesn't have a clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why two superbowls?

John Elway with Mikes ability to get talent.

John provided the leadership that Mike can not!!!!!!!

Believe in your line. Believe in your RB and run the ball. Win or lose you gain their respect.

Mike is all about fanesse and in the NFL it's about players making plays....Let them!!!

[Woody]

ya I guess your right, any other coach could have played all those teams as close as Denver did with 2 backup linebackers, a 3rd string QB, 2 backup linemen, and 1 good reciever. What was I thinking?

/end scarcasm

[Woody]

How am I making excuses? Saying its all Shanahans play calling is making excuses. "UNDERSTAND?" See, I can be a tough guy and type in all caps too...

[Javalon]

Originally posted by horseface
another coach would have won one of them tonight...stop making excuses for everyone...you even made an excuse for Madden making a stupid comment earlier. Shanahan made a few mistakes, and in retrospect, those mistakes lost the game...UNDERSTAND?

Let's not get carried away here. The Broncos made mistakes in all phases: Coaching, offense, defense, and special teams.

But what it comes down to is the Patriots played really well and beat the Broncos. They were the better team tonight.

[BroncoAle]

It's all over the Broncos boards...

Heck, some are even calling for Jimmah Johnson....

[seahawks_fan]

Why does Miami and Carolina win games? Because they give the ball to their best player and RUN THE DAMN CLOCK OUT

[Jared]

Originally posted by BroncoAle
It's all over the Broncos boards...

Heck, some are even calling for Jimmah Johnson....

HUH?

This IS the Bronco's board.

[thesaint]

Originally posted by horseface
and with all of those mistakes...the Broncos still would have won if Shanahan knew how to control the clock.

I disagree, you cant put all of it on Shanahan. Did he call a perfect game? No, but who does? Our defense didnt step up and make plays...we gave up 30 points at home...and our offense didnt convert 3rd downs when we needed them to. Hey, if Ashley catches that 3rd down out pattern its first down and we kill the clock. Shanny cant catch the ball for him.

[motarque]

yeah, after a loss, our hind-sight is 20-20 and we can see all kinds of things that went wrong. Shanahan makes bad calls, Lelie drops passes, secondary is giving up 15 yard pass plays left and right. The game kinda reminded me of Gannon's game last year on MNF when he ate up our defense. Last night wasn't nearly as bad, but I also stayed up to watch the game, then got my heart ripped out. I mean, Jake will help, but we can only lose 1 more game this year and have a realistic chance at the wild card. There are too many good teams in the AFC to go 10-6 and expect a playoff berth.

I hope this week off they can regroup, and make a 7 game run. Woody Paige has already written off the broncos, but I'll stick w/ 'em till the end...it may not end up pretty, and i'll might get heart-broken again, but they're my team; win or lose, they're my team.

[noregap]

Originally posted by horseface
and with all of those mistakes...the Broncos still would have won if Shanahan knew how to control the clock.

This is really scary, horseface...........I agree with you 100%.
GO BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!

[BroncoAle]

Originally posted by Jared
HUH?

This IS the Bronco's board.

I lurk on all the Broncos boards I can get my hands on. This is a fine board...

[JED Bronco]

Shanny isn't just responsible for play calling! He's the head coach!!

Originally posted by thesaint
I disagree, you cant put all of it on Shanahan. Did he call a perfect game? No, but who does? Our defense didnt step up and make plays...we gave up 30 points at home...and our offense didnt convert 3rd downs when we needed them to. Hey, if Ashley catches that 3rd down out pattern its first down and we kill the clock. Shanny cant catch the ball for him.

You're missing it!!! Shanahan doesn't just equal play calling!!!

Shanny isn't the O coordinator...He is the head coach, and head coaches lead:

Players
Asst. Coaches
They step in when required on the field too (often).

[thesaint]

Ok, so its Shanahans scheme thats awful then? It seems to have been working up until now. Why is he suddenly an idiot?
You can always second guess every coaches decision. The players have to play.