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  • #16
    Originally posted by Javalon
    Bobby Turner is an excellent running backs coach and can do wonders.
    Very true, BT is the man. I hope he proves me wrong, it wouldn't surprise me all that much.

    Go Broncos!!!

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    • #17
      tatum is still growing, its only his second year. he's shown he's got a great nose for the open field, and he beats dbs in races.

      he'll learn better pass blocking, as well as to be a better receiver out of the backfield (these come with time, again he's only in his second year)...the only question mark on him is whether or not he can stay healthy, which for a running back is a huge question. even if he cant maintain more than 15 carries a game, you can always pick up a good change up back in free agency or in a mid round in the draft...a guy like eddie george, travis henry, or tj duckett would be great, and pretty cheap as well.

      whether or not bell can be a franchise back at all remains to be seen, if this is a role he's willing to take on, he'll probably need to put on another 10 pounds of muscle to handle the pounding as well as be more punishing inside.

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      • #18
        I don't understand. I wasn't sold on TB during the off-season and thought Anderson should carry the load.

        I was promptly shot down......all I got was"How uninformed I was", "Did you not see Tatum run?" "MA is too old, slow, injured, etc...," and I didn't believe the Bell hype.

        But after watching him run this year, and not coming into the season as a buyer, I think he will be as good as any running back we've ever had. Give him another year or two, and look out!

        Let him grow, let him learn, and then watch as he brings us the Lombardi trophy.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
          That Tatum isn't our franchise back, he's not even a feature back. Look at our past RBs, Olandis Gary, Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, and even Clinton to a certain extent, they were all known as power backs... Well, Tatum doesn't have that power and thrust in him, he's the quick, explosive back. Sure, it's fun to watch him, but it's not fun to know that he's not the future.

          I want to know who the future back is on this team, if there is one to this point. Tatum isn't a Denver type RB, he's a homerun hitter, what we need is a power back that has enough strength to pull a few guys and get 3 or 4 extra yards.

          If you take out Tatum's big runs, he would end up with like a 3.3 yard average (Just estimating, didn't research it), and once Mike the Marine retires or leaves, he's going to be the guy that carries the ball 30-35 times a game? I don't think so.

          I mean, I like Tatum, but I don't see him going anywhere far in this Denver backfield. Maybe we should try and look for a RB that would work in this system? I don't know, it's just a random thought, and I don't like what the future is looking like for this Denver running game.

          The line is getting old, the system is slowly changing, we can't just throw anyone in there anymore and have them have success. Maybe we should start looking for the FRANCHISE RB of the Denver Broncos this offseason.


          Are you hinting that we should pick up Shaun Alexander?



          Although somelike that would be extremely intertesting, I think we're better spending next to nothing on "unknown" backs and still getting great production out of them.

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          • #20
            i also dont think its fair to say this in his second year


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            • #21
              Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
              That Tatum isn't our franchise back, he's not even a feature back. Look at our past RBs, Olandis Gary, Terrell Davis, Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, and even Clinton to a certain extent, they were all known as power backs... Well, Tatum doesn't have that power and thrust in him, he's the quick, explosive back. Sure, it's fun to watch him, but it's not fun to know that he's not the future.

              I want to know who the future back is on this team, if there is one to this point. Tatum isn't a Denver type RB, he's a homerun hitter, what we need is a power back that has enough strength to pull a few guys and get 3 or 4 extra yards.

              If you take out Tatum's big runs, he would end up with like a 3.3 yard average (Just estimating, didn't research it), and once Mike the Marine retires or leaves, he's going to be the guy that carries the ball 30-35 times a game? I don't think so.

              I mean, I like Tatum, but I don't see him going anywhere far in this Denver backfield. Maybe we should try and look for a RB that would work in this system? I don't know, it's just a random thought, and I don't like what the future is looking like for this Denver running game.

              The line is getting old, the system is slowly changing, we can't just throw anyone in there anymore and have them have success. Maybe we should start looking for the FRANCHISE RB of the Denver Broncos this offseason.
              I agree that Tatum may not be the featured back of the future, but his change of pace is great!

              I definitely and strongly disagee on the future of the running game out of Denver. I see no signs that it's done poorly over this season and last compared to other years. It's still in the top two in the NFL and probably #1 if you remove Vick's rushing yardage.

              I also feel that recent evidence suggests that the broncos can plug a wide range of RBs in there and have success (Gary, Anderson, Droughns, Anderson/Bell, etc).

              If you have such measureable success with middle-round draft choices at RB, why (in the modern salary cap world of the NFL) would you spend more money than you had to at RB when you can have top-of-the-league success for much less. Spend your scarce $$ where it's harder for the broncos to have success.

              Likewise, the broncos have traditionally had this rushing success with low-mid round draft choices on OL (or through free agency). Why pay more when you don't need to?

              Their system on offense seems to allow for top 5 offense-type success with mid round draft choices almost all the way around. If you want to invest high round picks, lets go for the killer DE or DT if available. Don't waste high picks where we don't need them!

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              • #22
                I like the way we do it now also... Thunder and Lightning... There are plenty out there that can provide that kind of punch, and then again, maybe Tater could bulk up a little, hopefully not sacrifice too much speed, and gain some endurance (if that is a problem).
                What I'm glad of is that we got rid of Clinton Rodman!!! His mom is dressing him REAL funny, now he just needs to get the tattoos and the hair dye thing going.

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                • #23
                  I like MA's heart, but I don't like his speed. I think that next season, you will definatly see Bell being the featured back. MA will be yet ANOTHER year older, and he isn't the youngest man on the team now.

                  Tatum's BIGGEST challenge is pass blocking. Same thing with Johnson in KC. There are ways to work around that, and work ON that. MA is a great guy. A hard worker. Someone that probably didn't get the respect he deserves for his athletic ability. He's a tough guy. But he isn't really a "feature" type back in the NFL. Not for the long haul. I think its important to have TB as the speedster, because Mike just can't take it to the house.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by The Dark Knight
                    Are you hinting that we should pick up Shaun Alexander?
                    Take it how you want to.
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                    • #25
                      Well....

                      Ron Dayne wasnt brought here for nothing, its unfortunate he cant display his skills more often b/c of the sucess bell and ma have had. but Dayne has shown nothing but greatness and that he fits this system very well. he shown it every oppurtunity he's been given. he had no shot whatsoever his 5yes in nyg, and now everybody wnats to label him a bust. I truly beleive we havent seen the last of Dayne, the man is hungry for playing time, and the team is gonna need him during this second half of the season. dont count him out yet, he still deserves his shot.


                      big ups to snk16.

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