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  • #31
    Originally posted by broncsyanks
    I believe that rod has become the secure #2 wr that is a possesion wr. What we lack in my opinion is a WR that can go deep. + we thought lelie was that guy but the league figured him out. lelie would be the perfect slot reciever in this position. If we get TO. TO #1 rod #2 lelie #3 putz TE #4 wr to be determined (just not watts aka butterhands)

    I beg to differ. Lelie is a heck of a deep threat. Jake just missed him. I don't have a stat sheet in front of me but I swear Jake missed him once deep every week on average. Sometimes he underthrew him and the dbs caught up and sometimes he overthrew him. Perhaps another millisecond would have helped, because I do remember a couple off the back foot. I wouldn't give up on Lelie yet. I'd like to see what he and Jake can do with one more off season and camp.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by nickmeyer
      I find it interesting that most people are voting for Denver to sign WR's and TE. I know most of you will probably call me crazy but I would like to see Denver go after a top RB, whether via trade, Draft or Free Agency. Not one of the RB's on our current roster are of elite caliber granted they are all solid but I think we need an MVP type player to help out our Solid but not great QB. If we did say, sign a Shaun Alexander or a Edgerrin James I believe it would put us over the top with a few key additions on Defense. How do you all feel about this???
      I feel that both the running and passing games feed off each other. You need both for both of them to do well. Right now we have a much better than average running game with our three backs. However, in the passing game we have one outstanding receiver that can be counted upon the catch just about anything thrown to him and make yardage after the play, we have one very good receiver that is more likely to catch the ball than drop it and we have .... guys that you hope will catch the ball and make a play.

      I think if Lelie stepped up and played at the same level as Rod, we would be much better off than we are. I like Ashley's speed and ability to get big yards, but his drops are killing drives. Too many times in the past season I saw him go up, get two hands on the ball and watch it go through his hands, up high, down low, etc. It's true he made some fantastic catches that amazed me, but the thing I think the offense lacks is consistency. Other than Rod, we don't have that, and it's something we need. It forces defenses to choose their poison at an unacceptable level: get burned by the run, get burned by Rod or get burned by (name another outstanding receiver here). If we have an even stronger third receiver or for that matter, Lelie as third receiver, we would still be in better shape than we are now.

      Right now it's too easy for them to concentrate on shutting down the run and knowing that in the third and long situations, they can likely beat us if they double cover Rod and force Ashley and the rest of the receivers to beat them.

      I would love the elite running back, but in the TD days, it was the threat of Elway beating a defense deep or even medium range with Shannon, Rod or Eddie that opened up those big runs. If a team came up and stacked the box to stop the run, Elway could pick them apart with short and long passes to receivers that caught the ball and made the yards after the catch.

      Now, they stack the box and Jake can hit Lelie and maybe watch the ball fall to the ground, bringing up a third and long when we might have instead had a third and one or two which opened up a lot of options, including going for it on fourth.

      Just my two cents.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by rogue719
        I feel that both the running and passing games feed off each other. You need both for both of them to do well. Right now we have a much better than average running game with our three backs. However, in the passing game we have one outstanding receiver that can be counted upon the catch just about anything thrown to him and make yardage after the play, we have one very good receiver that is more likely to catch the ball than drop it and we have .... guys that you hope will catch the ball and make a play.

        I think if Lelie stepped up and played at the same level as Rod, we would be much better off than we are. I like Ashley's speed and ability to get big yards, but his drops are killing drives. Too many times in the past season I saw him go up, get two hands on the ball and watch it go through his hands, up high, down low, etc. It's true he made some fantastic catches that amazed me, but the thing I think the offense lacks is consistency. Other than Rod, we don't have that, and it's something we need. It forces defenses to choose their poison at an unacceptable level: get burned by the run, get burned by Rod or get burned by (name another outstanding receiver here). If we have an even stronger third receiver or for that matter, Lelie as third receiver, we would still be in better shape than we are now.

        Right now it's too easy for them to concentrate on shutting down the run and knowing that in the third and long situations, they can likely beat us if they double cover Rod and force Ashley and the rest of the receivers to beat them.

        I would love the elite running back, but in the TD days, it was the threat of Elway beating a defense deep or even medium range with Shannon, Rod or Eddie that opened up those big runs. If a team came up and stacked the box to stop the run, Elway could pick them apart with short and long passes to receivers that caught the ball and made the yards after the catch.

        Now, they stack the box and Jake can hit Lelie and maybe watch the ball fall to the ground, bringing up a third and long when we might have instead had a third and one or two which opened up a lot of options, including going for it on fourth.

        Just my two cents.
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        This post explains why I wouldn't be surprised if they went after a stud TE.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Superchop7
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          This post explains why I wouldn't be surprised if they went after a stud TE.
          They need one, but I think they have the people there to do the job if they get some help at WR. Again, that's just my viewpoint.
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          • #35
            TE for sure, RB later rounds

            Originally posted by Superchop7
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            This post explains why I wouldn't be surprised if they went after a stud TE.
            We won the SB with 2 WR and a TE. A tight end isn't just a blocker. Most winning teams have a Sharpe type at their displosal.

            As far as RB there are only three requirements:

            1. Speed/quickness initially to get to the outside and create the possible threat.

            2. Be able to see peripherally to see the cut back lane.

            3. Good hands for catching and/or not fumbling.


            I don't care if they have moves or high end speed. Terrell was not high end and got caught after thirty yards on many occasions, but he could guarantee breaking big runs every game. Portis doesn't have alot of moves either.

            Go after D-line first and TE second, O-line third WR last.
            This is the NFL!!

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            • #36
              If we get TO

              I think that if TO comes to play, we maybe draft a RB in the 5th or later rounds. He would draw double coverage and open up the running game considerably,thus giving Dayne his chance to prove that he's not a bust like his heisman counterparts. TB also will have to prove himself and show that he has the ability to be the starter which I think Dayne will win that contest. I don't know what to think about MA, maybe he lands #2 position and becomes 3rd down RB. The real issue I think is at the DE/DT position. We haven't had a dominating presence at these positions in 5-6 years. Pryce is injured, and isn't the same player since the back injury, and maybe plays as a 3rd down specialist, leaving the Brownco line which is at best average, nothing to get excited about. We need to aquire either through the draft or FA at least 2 explosive DE/DT and pay them thier worth. We do that along with a WR, OL DP I think that's the missing element to the SB. Now If TO doesn't come that's a whole different scenario!!!!

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