2003 broncos starting line-up (O and D)

[bronx_2003]

who would you want or think will start for denver next year??? this is my line-up and formation:-

QB - JAKE PLUMMER
RB - GARNER/GRIFFIN/DRAFT PICK (garner with majority of carries)
FB - MIKE ANDERSON
WR - ROD SMITH
WR - ASHLEY LELIE
WR - ADRIAN MADISE/DRAFT PICK (to fight for it in training camp)
T - LEPSIS
T - FOSTER
C - NALEN
G - DAN NEIL
G - BEN HAMILTON


and the defense


DT - MARIO FATEFUI
DT - DARIUS HOLLAND
DE - TREVOR PRYCE
DE - REGGIE HAYWARD
MLB - AL WILSON
OLB - JASHON SYKES
OLB - JOHN MOBLEY
CB - CHAMP BAILEY
CB - LENNY WALLS
S - KENOY KENNEDY
S - NICK FERGUSON


so who would YOU pick?!?!

[TXBRONC]

Re: 2003 broncos starting line-up (O and D)

Originally posted by bronx_2003
who would you want or think will start for denver next year??? this is my line-up and formation:-

QB - JAKE PLUMMER
RB - GARNER/GRIFFIN/DRAFT PICK (garner with majority of carries)
FB - MIKE ANDERSON
WR - ROD SMITH
WR - ASHLEY LELIE
WR - ADRIAN MADISE/DRAFT PICK (to fight for it in training camp)
T - LEPSIS
T - FOSTER
C - NALEN
G - DAN NEIL
G - BEN HAMILTON


and the defense


DT - MARIO FATEFUI
DT - DARIUS HOLLAND
DE - TREVOR PRYCE
DE - REGGIE HAYWARD
MLB - AL WILSON
OLB - JASHON SYKES
OLB - JOHN MOBLEY
CB - CHAMP BAILEY
CB - LENNY WALLS
S - KENOY KENNEDY
S - NICK FERGUSON


so who would YOU pick?!?!

I like the way put it. Instead of Holland I would like to see Pope or Davis or both the DT spots. On the running back slot I'm not sure Garner would be the focus, I think Galloway, Griffin or a possible draft pick have a better chance of that.

[bronx_2003]

Re: Re: 2003 broncos starting line-up (O and D)

Originally posted by TXBRONC
I like the way put it. Instead of Holland I would like to see Pope or Davis or both the DT spots. On the running back slot I'm not sure Garner would be the focus, I think Galloway, Griffin or a possible draft pick have a better chance of that.

i would like Q to be our feature back but i cant see us paying out for garner if he will get limited carries

[Return of Lava]

I must say that is a pretty sorry d-line, Pryce is NOT a probowl end, he is a probowl tackle and an average end. Holland is a waste of space and doesnt get many sacks and doesnt plug holes like you all think he does.

[TXBRONC]

Originally posted by Return of Lava
I must say that is a pretty sorry d-line, Pryce is NOT a probowl end, he is a probowl tackle and an average end. Holland is a waste of space and doesnt get many sacks and doesnt plug holes like you all think he does.

Java its his opinion and he's entitled to it. Your wrong about Pyrce he has made the Pro Bowl as DE. Holland did what was asked of him you're showing your ignorance again, Shanahan knew exactly what he was getting when he put Holland in at the DT spot. His job was eat up space and occupy blockers so that the others such as Pryce, Berry and Hayward would not have to face as many double teams. You really don't know as much as you would like to think you do.

[Return of Lava]

Originally posted by TXBRONC
Java its his opinion and he's entitled to it. Your wrong about Pyrce he has made the Pro Bowl as DE. Holland did what was asked of him you're showing your ignorance again, Shanahan knew exactly what he was getting when he put Holland in at the DT spot. His job was eat up space and occupy blockers so that the others such as Pryce, Berry and Hayward would not have to face as many double teams. You really don't know as much as you would like to think you do.

First you say Pryce was the one to take up all the blockers, now Holland? Think TX why would Holland even be doubled, he isnt that strong he never bulled through the line or anything, he was pushed off the line on run plays and was stood straight up on pass plays, he is a waste of space. why is it he had 14 starts and Fatafehi had 9, yet Fatafehi out tackled him by about 7 tackles and out sacked Holland by 2.5? Holland sucks i would bet davis starts next year over him.

[bronx_2003]

i would like us to draft a DE in round 1 or 2 and move pryce to tackle but at the moment this is the best line for us IMO.

btw - i think our line is the weakness at the moment and we had a lack of paas rush most of last season. even in the playoff game all i heard was how our coverage was weak (and it was) BUT manning had all day to throw it!!!!!!!!

WE NEED TO DRAFT A DL IN ROUND 1 OR 2 (look what it did for the panthers when they drafted peppers)

[Almost Heaven]

How about FA Wiley at a DE position and FA Gildon at an OLB position. I'm not sure Mobley will come back from his injuries and be 100 percent. Not to mention Pryce back at DT.

[bronx_2003]

spraghan for mobley then. pryce is our best lineman and should be at tackle (but we must draft a good end 1st)

[Almost Heaven]

Anyone know what kind of contract Pryce has?

[Cugel]

pryce is our best lineman and should be at tackle (but we must draft a good end 1st)

This is why we should never have let Bertrand Berry go! We need those 11.5 sacks next year. With him a serious threat, Pryce would be in a better position to make plays.

Same with Ian Gold. We should have signed him before we go seeking all these free agents. Other teams don't seem to be worried about his injury, he's getting all kinds of attention and his agent says there's no way in hell he'll resign with Denver.

Berry I guess will sign with Arizona (poor guy - he'll never be heard from again once he disappears into that rat hole).

[bronx_2003]

Originally posted by Cugel
This is why we should never have let Bertrand Berry go! We need those 11.5 sacks next year. With him a serious threat, Pryce would be in a better position to make plays.

Same with Ian Gold. We should have signed him before we go seeking all these free agents. Other teams don't seem to be worried about his injury, he's getting all kinds of attention and his agent says there's no way in hell he'll resign with Denver.

Berry I guess will sign with Arizona (poor guy - he'll never be heard from again once he disappears into that rat hole).

ian gold overprices himself by a long way. if berry would rather take more money than be on a good football team then let him go.

[Return of Lava]

If we lose berry it will be a setback. i thought we wereont he verge on signing gold? I dont think we should draft a D-lineman at least until we see Mitchel or Eason or Mcneal play. I mean, we cant draft a rookie when we havent even seen last year's rookies yet. with the possible loss of berry, pryce will have to play en, we have a lot of tackles we can plug in, most likely dorsett davis. Hayward hopefully signs and we play him at the other end and hopefully he has a breakout year. Fatafehi and Davis are both good tackles so we wont be a horrible d-line, but not as dominat as we coul have been.

without gold, the team will lose the speed it had. Sykes/Spragan are solid so we wont be set back much, but again we wont be as dominant as we could be.

[Cugel]

ian gold overprices himself by a long way. if berry would rather take more money than be on a good football team then let him go.

That's ridiculous! Berry was out of football and got dirt wages to sign here. He played his way onto the starting lineup with hard work and deserves to be rewarded with decent money. I haven't heard that he wanted Warren Sapp dollars, just pay commensurate with his proven ability (he's not even considered by most people a "first tier" FA lineman, because he's "too small" so I doubt he'll get a huge contract). Especially because Bidwell, their owner, is a real tightwad. We could have matched what he's getting instead of making Hayward restricted and paying him big-bucks. I think Hayward has shown nothing for us as yet and doubt he'll ever be the answer.

As for Ian Gold he deserved to be paid decent money. Other teams don't seem to have a problem with paying him, why should we? (Notice he's not going to Wash. so I doubt anyone will be overpaying him).

[bronx_2003]

Originally posted by Cugel
That's ridiculous! Berry was out of football and got dirt wages to sign here. He played his way onto the starting lineup with hard work and deserves to be rewarded with decent money. I haven't heard that he wanted Warren Sapp dollars, just pay commensurate with his proven ability (he's not even considered by most people a "first tier" FA lineman, because he's "too small" so I doubt he'll get a huge contract). Especially because Bidwell, their owner, is a real tightwad. We could have matched what he's getting instead of making Hayward restricted and paying him big-bucks. I think Hayward has shown nothing for us as yet and doubt he'll ever be the answer.

As for Ian Gold he deserved to be paid decent money. Other teams don't seem to have a problem with paying him, why should we? (Notice he's not going to Wash. so I doubt anyone will be overpaying him).

we offered gold a gr8 deal and he re-jected it.

berry was offered a new contract but want too much for who he is.