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  • kmartin575
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    Originally posted by dogfish
    wasn't he having some injury issues in camp this year, or am i imagining that? in any case, roaf is a different story, and i believe that you agree with me, he's the harder of the 2 to replace. . .
    That is true that Roaf is the harder of the two to replace. Yes, Shields was having injury issues but I have heard that he is feeling much better this offseason. The fact that he played in the Pro Bowl points to him being healthy. Also, I believe his agent is quoted as saying he might have two more years in him, which is why the Chiefs are trying to sign him to a new two year contract.

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  • dogfish
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    Originally posted by kmartin575
    I don't think it is too much to ask for Shields to stay healthy. Shields has never missed a game, starting like 207 straight games.
    wasn't he having some injury issues in camp this year, or am i imagining that? in any case, roaf is a different story, and i believe that you agree with me, he's the harder of the 2 to replace. . .

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  • kmartin575
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    Originally posted by dogfish
    this is my point here-- that's a lot of wear and tear on the player who is basically your franchise now. . . he's a good back running behind a good line, and has as good a chance of doing it as any back in the league next year, but it's a herculean task. . .

    i also don't particularly like the odds of both shields and roaf staying healthy for an entire season, and i don't think he can do it without both of them in front of him for the whole year, especially roaf. . . it's certainly possible, we saw 2 1800+ yard rushers this year-- but 2000 is a lot, it's not fair to expect ant back to reach that. . .
    I don't think it is too much to ask for Shields to stay healthy. Shields has never missed a game, starting like 207 straight games.

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  • Broncsfan87
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    Have to give credit where credit is due, L.J. + the Chiefs O-Line = a rushing attack to be feared...

    I still remember that game he had against Cinci at the end of this last season, very impressive.

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  • dogfish
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    Originally posted by kmartin575
    I almost don't want him to get 2,000 yards. If he is getting that many yards we are probably running him too much.

    I now alot of you will say he is just a product of the O-line, but you have to see him in person. I was at the game where we played San Diego in Arrowhead. Larry Johnson was very hard to stop, just like in every other game. It is simply very hard to get him down, and it is very hard to stop him for a loss or no gain. He always finds a way to get across the line of scrimmage. Also, for a guy his size he is very fast. Larry probably runs a 40 somewhere around 4.4.
    this is my point here-- that's a lot of wear and tear on the player who is basically your franchise now. . . he's a good back running behind a good line, and has as good a chance of doing it as any back in the league next year, but it's a herculean task. . .

    i also don't particularly like the odds of both shields and roaf staying healthy for an entire season, and i don't think he can do it without both of them in front of him for the whole year, especially roaf. . . it's certainly possible, we saw 2 1800+ yard rushers this year-- but 2000 is a lot, it's not fair to expect ant back to reach that. . .

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  • kmartin575
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    Originally posted by mrbell26
    once the cheifs cut will shields this week, the amount of yards larry gets to the right side will greatly decrease...larry does scare me, but hes not gonna rush for 2,000 yards without shields in that line
    The Chiefs are probably not cutting Will Shields, especially if a new CBA is reached. They are working on a new 2 year contract for him. Even if he was cut, it is likely that he would come back with that new 2 year contract. Plus, John Welbourn is a guy that can fill in at a pro bowl level. He isn't Will Shields, but he is still pretty damn good.

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  • cinnamunmun
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    Originally posted by mrbell26
    once the cheifs cut will shields this week, the amount of yards larry gets to the right side will greatly decrease...larry does scare me, but hes not gonna rush for 2,000 yards without shields in that line
    I did forget about that one.

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  • mrbell26
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    once the cheifs cut will shields this week, the amount of yards larry gets to the right side will greatly decrease...larry does scare me, but hes not gonna rush for 2,000 yards without shields in that line

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  • kmartin575
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    Originally posted by cinnamunmun
    Im no Chiefs fan, but i have to agree somewhat with Kmartin, Johnson is a force to be reckoned with, while i dont think he will get 2400 yards in a season, i wouldnt be surprised to see him break 2000 sometime in the near future.
    I almost don't want him to get 2,000 yards. If he is getting that many yards we are probably running him too much.

    I now alot of you will say he is just a product of the O-line, but you have to see him in person. I was at the game where we played San Diego in Arrowhead. Larry Johnson was very hard to stop, just like in every other game. It is simply very hard to get him down, and it is very hard to stop him for a loss or no gain. He always finds a way to get across the line of scrimmage. Also, for a guy his size he is very fast. Larry probably runs a 40 somewhere around 4.4.
    Last edited by kmartin575; 03-05-2006, 09:47 PM.

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  • cinnamunmun
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    Originally posted by kmartin575
    Clinton Portis was good with the Broncos but not this good. I don't mean to insult Portis or be a homer, but what Johnson did last year was remarkable. In 9 starts he had two 200 yard games. Most people go a season without a 200 yard game. Like I said, I'm not trying to be a homer but Larry Johnson is a complete back (outside of his pass blocking) and has what it takes to carry the load. Of course he needs to improve on his pass blocking, but he is a very good runner and proved to be a very good receiver out of the backfield as well. Also, with Priest Holmes restructuring his contract to save us several million dollars against the cap, we will have a dependable third down and change of pace back that will help make sure LJ gets a break and will lessen the chances of him getting injured.
    Im no Chiefs fan, but i have to agree somewhat with Kmartin, Johnson is a force to be reckoned with, while i dont think he will get 2400 yards in a season, i wouldnt be surprised to see him break 2000 sometime in the near future.

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  • kmartin575
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    Originally posted by broncos4ever
    Barring injury, and if Larry has the same desire, and if the other teams don't figure him out. Larry will have to start and most teams will now game plan against him, so therefore it will be tougher for him to get the yards as a "starter". He will have to prove himself as a "starter" and being the "man". If the Chiefs also do not get any receiving help besides Gonzales then they will really be hurting...

    It takes a lot to get 2000 yards and few are in that exclusive club. Look how good Clinton Portis was and he did not break it...
    Clinton Portis was good with the Broncos but not this good. I don't mean to insult Portis or be a homer, but what Johnson did last year was remarkable. In 9 starts he had two 200 yard games. Most people go a season without a 200 yard game. Like I said, I'm not trying to be a homer but Larry Johnson is a complete back (outside of his pass blocking) and has what it takes to carry the load. Of course he needs to improve on his pass blocking, but he is a very good runner and proved to be a very good receiver out of the backfield as well. Also, with Priest Holmes restructuring his contract to save us several million dollars against the cap, we will have a dependable third down and change of pace back that will help make sure LJ gets a break and will lessen the chances of him getting injured.

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  • broncos4ever
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    Originally posted by kmartin575
    If our offensive line stays healthy next year it is likely that Larry Johnson will be the NFL's next 2,000 yard rusher, and probably even more. If he had been the starter all season it was calculated that he would have had around 2,400 yards.
    Barring injury, and if Larry has the same desire, and if the other teams don't figure him out. Larry will have to start and most teams will now game plan against him, so therefore it will be tougher for him to get the yards as a "starter". He will have to prove himself as a "starter" and being the "man". If the Chiefs also don not get any receiving help besides Gonzales then they will really be hurting...

    It takes a lot to get 2000 yards and few are in that exclusive club. Look how good Clinton Portis was and he did not break it...

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  • kmartin575
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    If our offensive line stays healthy next year it is likely that Larry Johnson will be the NFL's next 2,000 yard rusher, and probably even more. If he had been the starter all season it was calculated that he would have had around 2,400 yards.

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  • dogfish
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    all depends on who our starter is next year-- but i wouldn't hold my breath or anything! a 2000 yard season is a truly special thing-- it's only happened 5 times in the history of the league, so it's pretty unrealistic to ever count on it. . . tough enough for today's runners to even stay healthy for 16 games. . .

    winning the rushing title is cool and all-- but it's not like they spot you any points in your first play-off game for it or anything. . . honestly, if you have depth in the backfield, it's really more important to keep your star RB fresh and healthy for the post-season imo. . . leave the regular season awards for chumps like pansy manning! i would love to see another 2000 yard rusher in denver-- but not if he runs out of gas at a crucial moment! guys like TD just don't come along every day. . .

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  • onechance
    started a topic 2,000 yard rusher

    2,000 yard rusher

    now if we got anderson and bell to each get 1,000 and about 1,000 yards does that mean next season we can have the next rushing leader with close to or at 2,000 yards????
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