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  • No blockbuster deals..........

    We still have the same core of players that took us to the AFC title game, with the dismantling of the the Colts and Pats, things actually got a lot easier for us. We still have the draft, Im not mad about the TO thing, but we still need a speed rusher coming off the end. How do you guys feel about some of our moves. I heard someone said we'll go 9-7. I really doubt that. I feel we will be a much better team whether we sign some vets are not.

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    I say no worse than 11-5, thats with the team the way it is. If we add some strength to the defensive line I say we have the same recored as last year. I think we need DT more than we need an end, Gabe Watson would be a great fit

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    • #3
      Yes, we need some kind of respect on the D-line, I do agree.

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      • #4
        Our only real need this year is at DE, cause we lost pryce, at rb, te and wr, it is good if we add some depth, but it is not extremely needed, we will rock this year again...

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        • #5
          Problem is Pittsburgh is pretty much the same group of guys too. Bengals will be hot again, Dolphins could tear things up too. Personally, I could really see the Steelers going back to back before I see the Broncos in the SB. I think 9-7 sounds about right, at the moment, for the Broncos. That being said, I still need to see what they do in the draft and free agency before I make my final decision on the Broncos 2006-07 record. Rod Smith is getting old, Lelie has proven his inconsistency, huge question mark at running back and tight end, and a defensive line that could just be worse than last season. Trying to stay optomistic, but it's hard when I look at this team, right now.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shaolin
            Our only real need this year is at DE, cause we lost pryce, at rb, te and wr, it is good if we add some depth, but it is not extremely needed, we will rock this year again...
            Who do we have to play next to Warren? We have Brown, Lang an unproven guy in Cory Jackson(I think he'll be good) at end. If we make our DT our strongest possition on the line it will make other teams run towards the sidlines which our LB's will dominate. If we get another stud at DT I bet we have the best run defense in the league this year

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jvw
              Who do we have to play next to Warren? We have Brown, Lang an unproven guy in Cory Jackson(I think he'll be good) at end. If we make our DT our strongest possition on the line it will make other teams run towards the sidlines which our LB's will dominate. If we get another stud at DT I bet we have the best run defense in the league this year
              I'm still to see what lang and jackson can do, though jackson has the size that i like....lol

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              • #8
                I know one thing, our division may have gotten a little worse. Two of our foes are going to have a QB with little to no experience. KC will still have the dangerous running game, but Green and the WR's are getting old, not to mention their weak secondary might have gotten weaker.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shaolin
                  Our only real need this year is at DE, cause we lost pryce, at rb, te and wr, it is good if we add some depth, but it is not extremely needed, we will rock this year again...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UltimateSoldier
                    Leave to the Shaolin Monk to the voice of reason. Thank you.
                    What do you mean by that???????

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by broncosfan247
                      Problem is Pittsburgh is pretty much the same group of guys too. Bengals will be hot again, Dolphins could tear things up too. Personally, I could really see the Steelers going back to back before I see the Broncos in the SB. I think 9-7 sounds about right, at the moment, for the Broncos. That being said, I still need to see what they do in the draft and free agency before I make my final decision on the Broncos 2006-07 record. Rod Smith is getting old, Lelie has proven his inconsistency, huge question mark at running back and tight end, and a defensive line that could just be worse than last season. Trying to stay optomistic, but it's hard when I look at this team, right now.
                      I agree with some of this... I think Pittsburgh will be tough. Dolphins will need to have everyone mesh together before they get really good. Which Culpepper will show up??? Bengals, I still don't believe in at this time. So I would say 10-5 but lean more toward 11-4.

                      What I am not sure about is why you would say a worse DL? The Browncos will have another year of experience, we still have the draft and the rest of free agency, but even staying put where we are we really don't have a super issue there if we keep the same defensive scheme of pressuring the quarterback and keeping our main Defensive Players healthy...
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                      • #12
                        The only thing I see thats needed on Defense is a speedy DE. Warren, Myers, And Veal can rotate that DT spot pretty good. Although it wouldnt hurt to add another set of fresh legs in there though. Our need is on the offense, there's a huge question mark at RB, WR, and TE. Wesley Duke, I think will be fine. He's already a proven blocker and from what we've seen so far, he can go up for a catch. My worry about him is that knee. He tore his ACL what, 2 or 3 times already? Thats kinda scary. I would like to see us go after a RB and a DE in the first round ( Maroney and Wimbley ) and I am praying that we at least make an offer for Javon Walker. Any thoughts?
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                        • #13
                          Do you mean shot-blocker?

                          Originally posted by mopatt24
                          The only thing I see thats needed on Defense is a speedy DE. Warren, Myers, And Veal can rotate that DT spot pretty good. Although it wouldnt hurt to add another set of fresh legs in there though. Our need is on the offense, there's a huge question mark at RB, WR, and TE. Wesley Duke, I think will be fine. He's already a proven blocker and from what we've seen so far, he can go up for a catch. My worry about him is that knee. He tore his ACL what, 2 or 3 times already? Thats kinda scary. I would like to see us go after a RB and a DE in the first round ( Maroney and Wimbley ) and I am praying that we at least make an offer for Javon Walker. Any thoughts?

                          Hey I'm as excited as the next guy to see if our TE coach can catch lightning in a bottle twice and turn Duke into a stud. But when exactly did he prove he can block in the NFL? I think he played 20 plays all season. He's learning to block in the NFLE and hopefully will learn to run some routes as well. All we know for sure is he can outjump the short DBs on the fade route. Neal and Myers are not studs. If we really want a good d-line we need BOTH a stud DT and a passrushing DE.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DiehardinAlaska
                            Hey I'm as excited as the next guy to see if our TE coach can catch lightning in a bottle twice and turn Duke into a stud. But when exactly did he prove he can block in the NFL? I think he played 20 plays all season. He's learning to block in the NFLE and hopefully will learn to run some routes as well. All we know for sure is he can outjump the short DBs on the fade route. Neal and Myers are not studs. If we really want a good d-line we need BOTH a stud DT and a passrushing DE.
                            Duke was in blocking the last 4 or 5 games of the season. I seem him in there blocking alot in those games and he's pretty dam good at it. I'm not saying that Myers and Veal are studs, but they held there own pretty dam good. I say more of a passrushing DE is needed on the line.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by broncosfan247
                              Problem is Pittsburgh is pretty much the same group of guys too. Bengals will be hot again, Dolphins could tear things up too. Personally, I could really see the Steelers going back to back before I see the Broncos in the SB. I think 9-7 sounds about right, at the moment, for the Broncos. That being said, I still need to see what they do in the draft and free agency before I make my final decision on the Broncos 2006-07 record. Rod Smith is getting old, Lelie has proven his inconsistency, huge question mark at running back and tight end, and a defensive line that could just be worse than last season. Trying to stay optomistic, but it's hard when I look at this team, right now.
                              I agree with much of this, but I see 10-6 or 11-5 as more likely than 9-7. Still, the Jets fans were pretty optomistic at this time last year after their playoff win, and look what happened to them (Pennington's injury, their team falling apart, the #4 pick in the draft)!

                              I thought 11-5 maybe 12-4 was the possible range for the Broncos last year and they exceeded that by a couple of games. Some of it was luck. (Ian Gold sticks out his hand accidentally deflecting a TD pass and the Broncos beat the Redskins, etc.). Some of it was a favorable schedule (playing teams at home rather than on the road) and some was that the Eagles and Patriots whom the Broncos played weren't as good last year as they were in 2004.

                              Then Jake Plummer managed to stay healthy all season once again. That can't continue forever. QBs eventually get hurt. That's life in the NFL. I would expect Plummer to miss at least a couple of games this year. If it's more than 2 games the Broncos won't make the playoffs. Then 9-7 or 8-8 would be a fair prediction.

                              You can't expect the same amazing luck (ex: drafting Darrent Williams as a PR/KR and having him unexpectedly turn out to be your starting CB) all year.

                              The Broncos are going to have to pick some GREAT draft picks and everybody on the team is going to step up if this team is to duplicate the success of last year.

                              Most likely they will be worse, not better.

                              TE, DE, a backup QB (Gus Ferrotte doesn't count) and some depth on the OL are the chief needs. Especially DL.
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