The preseason for us is underrated! How we should look at it.

[champbronc2]

You guys need to seriously think about the teams and how some of them have improved.

Arizona- 7/10 Challenge for us. They will have one of the most complete offenses in the league. They have the "Edge" and have two elite WR's. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Their QB Warner could be their only problem. I don't think he will be good anymore but will only succeed due to his offense around him. Their OL is good too with Dan Neil and such. Their problem is the defense sucks.

Houston- 6.9/10 Kubiak is Houstons new coach which is good for them. They have a good WR core with Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds. Both possible #1 WR's. They also have a nice pass catching TE our former Jeb Putzier. Their OL should improve if Kube knows what he is doing. The defense still has some struggles and will need to improve. Reggie Bush and Domanick Davis will be a tough 1-2 punch possibly stronger than ours. David Carr is a good QB when he has an OL.

Lions- 4/10 A sad team. The coach sucks. The GM sucks. They don't have a QB unless you count Kitna. Their only upside is the WR core. Very strong. Rogers, Roy Williams, and Mike Williams. Kevin Jones didn't really play to his hype either. Boss Bailey is a good LB on defense for them and probably their only notable defensive player. (Brother of Champ ) They do have a nice DT though. Shaun Rogers is very good.

Titans- 3/10 McNair is gone. Chris Brown at RB? I don't like it. WR's? None. OL? Nothing special. Defense? Not too good.

That's how I see our preseason. There is a chance at 2-2 but I don't really see it but 2 of these games could be harder than you think.

[champbronc2]

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[champbronc2]

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[JRWIZ]

Mikey does not lose preseason games very often. He does what he has to to see the players he needs to see. Then the competitive juices kick in if we are close he goes for it. Does not like losing anytime.

[vicious2500]

Its only the preseason whats it matter? Its a time to evaluate the 2nd and 3rd stringers with no consquences.

[champbronc2]

Yeah good point Vicious

[dbdom]

a few things, of course depending on draft and how that goes, these comments could be negated but arizona still needs a line for edge to run behind and keep kurt warner upright, and warner although long in the tooth still had 4 300yrd games last season and throwing to boldin and fitzgerald, they will put up good numbers

as for houston, if they improve their OL their offense could be very good, their defense is still nothing special

as for the lions, i definitely think you have underestimated them, in kitna they have a guy with experience and can win and kevin jones is a legitimate threat on the run if he is healthy and with a bunch of receivers with potential (not yet actually shown much production other than roy williams) mike martz could make this offense very good, remember what he did with a vet with experience called kurt warner last time, but their defense really isnt that good, up front they aint bad but their linebackers and safety play can be taken advantage of

as for the titans, if they do end up losing mcnair, that really hits them bad and they will probably have a rookie start in matt leinart but other than that their offense is pretty bad, chris brown and travis henry arent bad runners but i doubt they can carry the offense on their back and with a few additions, their defense is solid if unspectacular

however another thing to take into account is the fact that for us starters like jake wont take too many snaps and i find a lot of time the result is dependent on how quickly the coach pull starters out of games

[sbutk]

You guys need to seriously think about the teams and how some of them have improved.

Arizona- 7/10 Challenge for us. They will have one of the most complete offenses in the league. They have the "Edge" and have two elite WR's. Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald. Their QB Warner could be their only problem. I don't think he will be good anymore but will only succeed due to his offense around him. Their OL is good too with Dan Neil and such. Their problem is the defense sucks.

Houston- 6.9/10 Kubiak is Houstons new coach which is good for them. They have a good WR core with Andre Johnson and Eric Moulds. Both possible #1 WR's. They also have a nice pass catching TE our former Jeb Putzier. Their OL should improve if Kube knows what he is doing. The defense still has some struggles and will need to improve. Reggie Bush and Domanick Davis will be a tough 1-2 punch possibly stronger than ours. David Carr is a good QB when he has an OL.

Lions- 4/10 A sad team. The coach sucks. The GM sucks. They don't have a QB unless you count Kitna. Their only upside is the WR core. Very strong. Rogers, Roy Williams, and Mike Williams. Kevin Jones didn't really play to his hype either. Boss Bailey is a good LB on defense for them and probably their only notable defensive player. (Brother of Champ ) They do have a nice DT though. Shaun Rogers is very good.

Titans- 3/10 McNair is gone. Chris Brown at RB? I don't like it. WR's? None. OL? Nothing special. Defense? Not too good.

That's how I see our preseason. There is a chance at 2-2 but I don't really see it but 2 of these games could be harder than you think.

You're putting too much emphasis on preseason games. So what if we go 0-4, does anybody really care? Preseason is a time for ironing out kinks, evaluating new guys, and deciding who fits best where.

[vicious2500]

You're putting too much emphasis on preseason games. So what if we go 0-4, does anybody really care? Preseason is a time for ironing out kinks, evaluating new guys, and deciding who fits best where.

If I'm not mistaken a couple years ago the Patriots went 0-4 in the preseason and won the super bowl...

[sbutk]

If I'm not mistaken a couple years ago the Patriots went 0-4 in the preseason and won the super bowl...

DING DING


...Exactly my point.

[JRWIZ]

If I'm not mistaken a couple years ago the Patriots went 0-4 in the preseason and won the super bowl...

But that was the PATs not the Broncos, they were also very special in those years. Great QB FGK and Defense superb coach.

[vicious2500]

But that was the PATs not the Broncos, they were also very special in those years. Great QB FGK and Defense superb coach.

We have everything the pats had when they made that run. The only difference is our defense isn't as dominate as theirs was because of our D-line. Its also arguable if Plummers a great QB. Within our system he's a great QB and can do what the other greats wouldn't be able to do.

[sbutk]

But that was the PATs not the Broncos, they were also very special in those years. Great QB FGK and Defense superb coach.

Hmm, Denver? ...Check, Check, Check ...and Check.

[Inkana7]

I also recall the Colts going 0-4 this Preseason and then going on a 13-0 run...

[JRWIZ]

We have everything the pats had when they made that run. The only difference is our defense isn't as dominate as theirs was because of our D-line. Its also arguable if Plummers a great QB. Within our system he's a great QB and can do what the other greats wouldn't be able to do.

They have better DLine with wilfortk and seymor and their LB's are as good if not better overall than ours although it is a totally different system than ours.

I'd take Mcginnest over our either DE or Lb in a heart beat in his prime same goes for brewski @LB and vrable is not to shambbie either.

That is why they are so good at DEFENSE 6 players that are great vs our sinlge great LB in Wilson, two other fast LB's and no name dline.

Wilsonis pretty damned good FS the rest of their DB's can't hold a candle to ours, but they get so much push at the LOS with everyone else, the Db don't have much to do.