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  • #61
    Well i wasnt talking about people with money, they dont have to admit to ****, thats what money is for, to buy their way out of trouble, but for the rest of us, its a different story.

    My point is you need lawyers, they all arent crooks, theives and liars, and one day a lawyer may actually save your life, so dont be to cynical...........

    But nuff said on this subject............I will drop it.

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    • #62
      interesting responses from all.
      as for the kind sentiments, he appreciates them all.
      dont be surprised to see a full page add in the news to thank the fans for their support. he will appreciate knowing that many here support him also.

      as for the rest of the comments, this is really the heart of the issue. whoever said lawyers are hired when people are ACCUSED, kudos to them. thats exactly right. all persons accused hire lawyers. some are guilty, some are not.

      the problem here is that for mike to say "i did it", would be having no honor in his view. i understand and respect that. he is probably suffering more scrutiny now for holding his ground, but he is doing what he feels is right.

      jake

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      • #63
        ps- as a man of intrgrity and honor, mike agrees 100% that to be a liar is worse than to smoke pot. that is precisely why he wont lie and say he did it.

        jake

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        • #64
          Well when do you think he's going to come out and tell the world that Shanny was lying?

          Are we going to have to wait until his suspension is up?

          Until he retires?

          Tomorrow?

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          • #65
            mary is not a drug, it may be classified as one but it really is no worse then, alcohol, taobacco, I don't think eith one of those has a medical use as does my sweet mary, and if he did do it I will not look down on him for that now Irvin that is another story he is just a crack head...
            Ozzy


            The "New Black Sabbath"

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Mer
              Well when do you think he's going to come out and tell the world that Shanny was lying?

              Are we going to have to wait until his suspension is up?

              Until he retires?

              Tomorrow?
              all ive heard shanahan say is similar to what ive said, which is that he stands by him, the amount tested wouldve been negative in any other test, and that he isnt at liberty to discuss the situation further at the request of mike a. and his lawyer.

              that is the only statement from shanahan that i am aware of. adam "a-hole" schefter wrote an article ASSUMING it was his third offense because of the nfl policy not to suspend until the third offense. he is wrong. there are extenuating circumstances involved and they will come out when mike's lawyer has concluded his dealings with the nfl. mike will explain the situation, and you will understand why this particular case went to suspension for a first violation.

              as for your supposed comment from shanahan, where exactly did you hear this, because as i said, i am unaware of any such comment from shanahan.

              jake

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              • #67
                If someone has superpass, you can listen to his comments here...

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                • #68
                  "Anderson had a track record the league refused to overlook. Anderson had been entered into "Stage One" and "Stage Two" of the NFL's testing program, though it is possible he voluntarily admitted himself into the first stage."

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                  • #69
                    i am unable to listen to the comments now, but i believe those comments were made BEFORE his comments today.

                    considering shanahan's comments today where he says he isnt at liberty to discuss the details, but that he supports mike 100% in the matter, etc. ,etc.

                    do you think that may be because between then and now shanahan learned the truth also?

                    look, i dont know what shanahan said last night, but i know what he said today, and if what you say is true, then shanahan's statements are contradictory. makes sense if he only found out the whole story in the mean time. either way, the whole "third offense" talk is speculation REGARDLESS of who speculates.

                    how long will everyone have to wait for the rest of the story to come out? i really dont know. i wish it was now, because everyone making false assumptions against mike is frustrating to hear. schefter's piece of irresponsible journalism was so bad as to make me want to hit something.

                    as for everything else ive said, maybe i shouldnt have at all. an incomplete story is frustrating, and i apologize for doing that. i was simply trying to defend a guy that i know well enough to consider a friend, and someone worthy of being defended.

                    as for why im not saying the rest of the details, it has nothing to do with wanting to be an insider, or saying "i told you so" later, it is simply because i was asked not to give the details. again, i apologize for opening my trap at all, but i hope some of you can understand that its hard to see someone criticized when you know the person, and you know most of the criticism to be false.

                    jake

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Mer
                      "Anderson had a track record the league refused to overlook. Anderson had been entered into "Stage One" and "Stage Two" of the NFL's testing program, though it is possible he voluntarily admitted himself into the first stage."

                      http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,...760322,00.html
                      let me guess, another schefter gem?

                      another false story either way. this is just bad journalism. the only media outlet i know of that I THINK has been totally responsible and not printed/stated assumption as fact is am950 the fan. all ive heard from them is that this was not a recent test, but theyre unsure why the nfl just suspended now. DING DING!! it might not be as interesting, but i admire them for only stating what they KNOW.

                      jake

                      ps- knowing myself, ill probably continue this until mike tells everyone what only few know now, but it is tearing me up right now. i must say i am literally SHOCKED at the amount of speculation being reported and discussed as fact.

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                      • #71
                        That makes me even more sad then.

                        That means the coach of the Broncos was under the impression that Anderson had been in the program. Which would mean miraculously over night, he got different information saying that he wasn't in the program. Either way, the Denver management system needs an overhaul.

                        He was suspended Monday. It was announced Monday. Shanny made his comments Tuesday night. It's now Wednesday and he's not denying his comments, he's saying he can't discuss them any longer.

                        If all you say is true, then I hate Shanny even more now.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by bcollin1
                          So does Mike have a concussion or a separated shoulder?

                          (sorry, but given the quote, I thought it was immensely funny)
                          that is funny bc. laughing still. thanks alot. this situation has me quite upset, and the humor is welcome.

                          jake

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Mer
                            That makes me even more sad then.

                            That means the coach of the Broncos was under the impression that Anderson had been in the program. Which would mean miraculously over night, he got different information saying that he wasn't in the program. Either way, the Denver management system needs an overhaul.

                            He was suspended Monday. It was announced Monday. Shanny made his comments Tuesday night. It's now Wednesday and he's not denying his comments, he's saying he can't discuss them any longer.

                            If all you say is true, then I hate Shanny even more now.
                            be a smarta$$ if you must. thats why i said i probably shouldnt have started this in the first place. all thats happening now is im getting extremely pi$$ed reading comments like yours. thanks a bunch.

                            again, IF he said that, he was also being assumptive as was just about everyone else. never mind, im arguing this with a chiefs fan who obviously is subtly accusing me of being a liar, and has no motive except to irritate me. if someone has a GENUINE comment, im all ears but ive had it with the presumtive sarcastic garbage.

                            jake

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                            • #74
                              also, can someone confirm the DETAILS of what shanahan said last night? again, this is the first ive heard of those comments, and they are far different from his supportive comments today. he didnt simply say he couldnt discuss it, he said that he couldnt discuss all the DETAILS, the same thing ive said. he also said that any company including his wouldve been a negative test, and he supports mike in anything he does. doesnt quite sound like a guy "disapointed" in someone does it?

                              what im wondering until i can check out those comments myself is this. did shanahan also say the same thing that some reporters said and ASSUME that it was his third offense? i can see shanahan speculating, and saying he doesnt know all the details yet, but i'd be VERY surprised if he pulled a schefter and stated that as if it were fact.

                              jake

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                              • #75
                                I'm going to remember the fact that you consider him a friend, and so thats why you're getting pissy.

                                In no way was I calling you a liar.

                                I was calling Shanny a liar.
                                I was stating that SHANNY shouldn't have opened his mouth Tuesday if he didn't know for sure that Mike was in the program.

                                Me being a Chiefs fan has nothing to do with nothing. Denver isn't going to lose because Mike is suspended. Mike isn't a horrible person because this happened.

                                So relax. Take a deep breath. He's suspended. Theres nothing anyone can do about it now. All the truths will come out, and I'll say it again...

                                If all you say is true, then I've lost even more respect for Shanny for opening his mouth about one of this players.

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