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  • #31
    Originally posted by horseface
    I'll bet we'll come up with something to say after we beat them though.
    oh really, d*ck--i mean horseface
    i couldve sworn you lost to them.
    In Seal Beach, takedown wins it and take out is king.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by spikerman
      Chiefs fans may believe that Mike has a rat face; I wonder what Vermeil's face looks like. I can't see through the constant flow of his tears to get a good enough look.

      I have been reading on the board from the KC fans about how injuries are no excuse... yada yada yada. I wonder what ol' Vermeil's reaction would have been had they had the same amount of injuries the Broncos have had. Remember when he lost Green in St. Louis? With our injuries you would have to hospitalize the guy!
      this is very true. i call him coach d*ck "face" vermeil
      In Seal Beach, takedown wins it and take out is king.

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      • #33
        but

        Yeah i think it was because plummer went down, but also because we lost two great linebackers. If they were fit i think we would be top defense in the nfl
        Please God don't let the Pats win the Superbowl!! AGAIN

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        • #34
          Aardwolf makes a good point: It's not necessarily injuries that can bring a team down.

          After watching the Pats play Indy this week, I think it is safe to say that leadership in the QB position determins the attitude of the team. Peyton second guessed himself, and they lost. Brady has the moniker of being the next comeback kid. The teams in this league who place a charismatic leader under center are the teams that are leading their teams to the playoffs. Same thing happended with Kitna vs. Green. Without Plummer (and losing Beuerlein, the confidence of the Broncos faded).

          Let's just hope or QB carries more charisma this weekend...
          ...And [sic 'he'] is given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth....

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          • #35
            Originally posted by palehorse
            Aardwolf makes a good point: It's not necessarily injuries that can bring a team down.

            After watching the Pats play Indy this week, I think it is safe to say that leadership in the QB position determins the attitude of the team. Peyton second guessed himself, and they lost. Brady has the moniker of being the next comeback kid. The teams in this league who place a charismatic leader under center are the teams that are leading their teams to the playoffs. Same thing happended with Kitna vs. Green. Without Plummer (and losing Beuerlein, the confidence of the Broncos faded).

            Let's just hope or QB carries more charisma this weekend...
            Let's remember it was an "injury" to Plummer that put him out and put us on a losing streak. Whose knows what would have happened if Plummer was not "injured". The key point we were trying to make was the "quarterback" was the one that was injured and that was trouble for the Broncos.
            Go Broncos!!! - Hosea 10:12

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            • #36
              There are a number of reasons the Broncos are 5-4;
              1. Jake Plummer went down, this happens a lot in the NFL but if memory serves me right McNabb went down in the 10th game of the season last year his backup Detmer went down in week 11 and Philly made the playoffs with a third string QB (A.J. Feely, Feely and Detmer combined for a 5-1 run). St Louis went to a Super Bowl and won with a backup QB as did New England with Brady. Who’s fault is it that Denver didn’t have a quality backup, and please don’t say Beuerlein is quality decent but not one that I would want to rely on for a long period of time he’s only had three good seasons out of 17 that was 93 with the Cardinals, 99 and 00 in Carolina. And, to start the season off with one backup is not the brightest thing around. Again who’s decision was that?
              2. Mike Shanahan has a rat face, I don’t know if it would be called a rats face but who better to know that then Bronco fans. I don’t think his outward appearance has anything to do with his lack of success since Elway left. Think about folks, Elway left and Shanahan thought he was a god. I have read this board enough to know that you all do not believe that he is the coach he was when Denver had Elway and Davis in the backfield. Look at some of his bonehead calls this year that lost games for you. Against KC nomatter what you want to say they kicked to Hall and lost, not having a good backup (ok 3rd stringer) Minn, Balt, and NE. Not running Portis when you have the game in your pocket.
              3. Bad calls seemed to be the battle cry for the Broncos. Suck it up look at Detroit they have had bad calls left and right for years now. Look at TB against Indy, yes they deserved to lose if you give up that many points at the end of the game but they are not blaming their season on bad calls, Seattle lost on bad calls to Baltimore but they deserved to for the same reason as TB did above. There are bad calls enough to go around. Trust me you guys have gotten your share through out the years.
              4. The bottom line it took Denver 32 years to get the perfect combination of a passing game and a running game and until Shanahan realizes that he is not the reason the team won back to back super bowls you wont make it again.
              5. Yes I know my team hasn’t been there in many many years and we don’t have the back to back but one thing our team does know how to do is regroup and rebuild that is why the Chiefs will always be near if not at the top for many years to come.
              Never take life seriously.
              Nobody gets out alive anyway.

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              • #37
                1. Our number 1 and number 2 quarterbacks went down. I don't know why you posted this message since we aren't 5-4 anymore, just like how you are 9-0 anymore. We have had many discussions about the importance that the injury of Jake Plummer had on our record. The fact is, we are a better team with him in. And one screwup against the bears is not going to disprove that. If Greene had gone down the chiefs record would be different, just like the Broncos. So this argument is a load of crap.
                2. This is a joke. Vermeil is a crybaby so chiefs will never win the SB is just as valid as an arguement.
                3. Every coach gets criticized for "bad" calls when they lose. Yes there have been calls that leave some of us going "???" but he is still a good coach.
                4. yes it took us 32 but we won two. You have had 30+ years to reclaim your former glory, HA, and you still don't have it. We have a good passing and running game, if we stay healthy and special teams comes together we will be dangerous.
                5. If your team is so good at rebuilding and regrouping why haven't they won anything? And why do you think they keep on having to regroup and rebuild? Maybe because they were never that good.

                Yes we are only 7-5, still a decent record, but with the injuries we have had we are allright. If we can stay healthy rest of the season and get into the playoffs, watch out, cause we are going to kick everyone's ass. Sure you guys are 11-1, but you haven't faced any adversity or had anything test your resolve. We have, and it has made us better. Because whatever doesn't kill you only makes you stronger.
                Rivers, Suck it long suck it hard.

                You too Cutler.

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                • #38
                  Rascal, what is the topic? I didn’t start it I just added something to it. Your boys started it, in fact brnc fan 14 started it I know its late but obviously others are continuing the thread or it wouldn’t have been current when I chimed in.

                  1. Philly was with their third stringer and won. As far as Green going down we would have survived we may not have won as many games as we did but we would have survived because Vermeil knows that his strength is in Holmes and he would have ran him like Shanahan should have run Portis.
                  2. True, Vermeil get emotional and Shanahan covers things up for his players and lies about his team. (Anderson had been warned before on drugs and Shanahan knew this but told everyone they were surprised when it happened. He also told Plummer to lie about his injury during the SD game). Again FACT.
                  3. Good coach yes but not great and not a genius. He should stick to coaching and not try and be a front office geek. Here are a few of his front office mistakes.
                  1) Huge signing bonus & contract paid to Greise - stupid
                  2) Huge signing bonus & contract paid to Dale Carter - stupid
                  3) Huge signing bonus & contract paid to big Chester - stupid
                  4) Huge signing bonus & contract paid to Gardner - stupid
                  4. If my Aunt had b#### she would be my uncle. You tend to go back to that if we werent hurt. Like the Broncos have been the only team that had to ever deal with injuries.
                  5. Your right they haven’t won anything in the past, and they may not win this year but you will never know because neither will the Broncos as long as Shanahan is still calling the shots.

                  Injuries again? If this or that again? Please get a new excuse because this one is lame. You got beat against Chicago Jake was there; He looked like crap against Cincy the first week of the season and should have lost (play them now and you would lose). Jakes a good QB don’t get me wrong, but he is not great, he never has been and probably never will be. If he was then Shanahan wouldn’t have taken the ball out of his hands this past week. Everyone has saw and knows it except for the folks wearing orange and blue colored glasses. Denver is one-dimensional at best. Could they win this week? Yes, because any given Sunday any team could win, even the Broncos.

                  Reply if you want but I won't because we have spent too much time on this post and its time to move on.
                  Never take life seriously.
                  Nobody gets out alive anyway.

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                  • #39
                    Re: why are the brncs 5-4?

                    The Snake went Down


                    Originally posted by brnc fan 14
                    why do you think the broncos are 5 and 4? they were doing so good before...

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                    • #40
                      I replied because some of your reasons were stupid for the Broncos being 5-4. I don't even know why this thread continues or why you mentioned these reasons in the first place since they obviously aren't 5-4.

                      You say you would have won, but THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING since your team is lucky and has been injury free. I'm not being bias here, but how can you expect a team with as many injuries as the Broncos have not to struggle. Sure there are maybe of couple of teams that have done well with their 3rd string QB, but that is defintely not the norm. hell, you probably don't even know your 3rd string QB.

                      I have never heard anything about Shanny saying anything about Mike Anderson being suprised. Anderson was possibly not warned, like I have said before, they can enter stage one on thier own. The whole lying thing, again, it was a game decision and he wasn't punished SO WHO GIVES A ****.

                      I will not argue about Shanny making mistakes singing players, but we weren't discussing his GM skills we were talking about his coaching skills.

                      Did I say the Broncos were the only team with injuries. NOOOO. But trust me, if the Broncos get into the playoffs healthy, you will not want to play them. Especially the chiefs who predictably melt. The Broncos will win another SB before the Squaws...guaranteed. And Denver one-dimensional HA. If anything the chiefs are more one-dimensional than anybody. Cause without PH you guys are lost.

                      It was raining this past week so why not give it to Portis.

                      And injuries are not an excuse its fact. It (injuries) are why we were 5-4.
                      Rivers, Suck it long suck it hard.

                      You too Cutler.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rascal
                        I replied because some of your reasons were stupid for the Broncos being 5-4. I don't even know why this thread continues or why you mentioned these reasons in the first place since they obviously aren't 5-4.

                        You say you would have won, but THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING since your team is lucky and has been injury free. I'm not being bias here, but how can you expect a team with as many injuries as the Broncos have not to struggle. Sure there are maybe of couple of teams that have done well with their 3rd string QB, but that is defintely not the norm. hell, you probably don't even know your 3rd string QB.

                        I have never heard anything about Shanny saying anything about Mike Anderson being suprised. Anderson was possibly not warned, like I have said before, they can enter stage one on thier own. The whole lying thing, again, it was a game decision and he wasn't punished SO WHO GIVES A ****.

                        I will not argue about Shanny making mistakes singing players, but we weren't discussing his GM skills we were talking about his coaching skills.

                        Did I say the Broncos were the only team with injuries. NOOOO. But trust me, if the Broncos get into the playoffs healthy, you will not want to play them. Especially the chiefs who predictably melt. The Broncos will win another SB before the Squaws...guaranteed. And Denver one-dimensional HA. If anything the chiefs are more one-dimensional than anybody. Cause without PH you guys are lost.

                        It was raining this past week so why not give it to Portis.

                        And injuries are not an excuse its fact. It (injuries) are why we were 5-4.
                        the reason i posted this thread, a LONG, LONG time ago (why it goes on i dont know) is because the broncos WERE 5-4 when i wrote this, and the reason i put "shanny has a rat face" as an option, like ive explained twenty times, is because some stupid kc fan said that to me in a different forum
                        In Seal Beach, takedown wins it and take out is king.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by brnc fan 14
                          the reason i posted this thread, a LONG, LONG time ago (why it goes on i dont know) is because the broncos WERE 5-4 when i wrote this, and the reason i put "shanny has a rat face" as an option, like ive explained twenty times, is because some stupid kc fan said that to me in a different forum
                          I was talking to LLchiefsfan on why he decided to give reason for being 5-4. I never said anything about why you included different options. I was simply refuting several of chiefsfan reasons.

                          I agree this thread seriously needs to die. I won't be responding to this thread in the future.
                          Rivers, Suck it long suck it hard.

                          You too Cutler.

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