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    Looks like Cedric Cobbs could have a little something going on here... He's the league leader in rushing yards in the preseason, and has caught Shanny's eye:
    Notebook: The Game's Afoot

    Competition for No. 1 RB Slot Still Wide Open

    By Andrew Mason
    DenverBroncos.com

    ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- The final preseason game is typically one that sees the Broncos rest most of their starters.

    The operative word there is "most."

    "What we usually do in the last game is the established starters will sit out -- and that's really everybody on the offense and defense excluding the running backs," Head Coach Mike Shanahan revealed following Tuesday afternoon's practice session.

    That means it could be a busy night for all the running backs -- including first-teamer Mike Bell, who has started every game so far in the preseason.

    "I'm not going to go through the playing time or the depth chart," Shanahan said. "We'll all find out when we open the season against the Rams who that starting running back will be. But there is some competition there, and hopefully we'll get a chance to evaluate them against Arizona, and obviously we'll all see when we play against the Rams (on Sept. 10) who gets the starting nod."

    So far in the preseason, four of the five Broncos runners have found the end zone; Mike Bell has two touchdowns while Cedric Cobbs, Tatum Bell and Damien Nash each have scored once. But it is Cobbs who currently leads the league in preseason rushing yardage, gaining 161 yards and averaging 5.8 yards per rush, which has him believing he's barely behind the battling Bells in the ground derby.

    "I would say that I'm not too far away from (them) -- if (not) right tit-for-tat with them," Cobbs said. "But I've got to keep continuing to get better. This game is real important to me, so I'm definitely trying to raise it to another level."

    Added Shanahan: "Any time a guy averages over 5.5 yards a carry, he's doing a great job.

    Nash did not practice Monday, but Ron Dayne did; he missed the last two games while battling a turf-toe injury.

    "For him to practice today was a good sign," Shanahan said.

    And with 60 minutes of preseason football remaining, the competition to be the team's No. 1 running back at St. Louis remains wide open.

    "There's nobody excluded there," Shanahan said.
    We'll see I guess
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  • #2
    Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
    Looks like Cedric Cobbs could have a little something going on here... He's the league leader in rushing yards in the preseason, and has caught Shanny's eye:


    We'll see I guess
    I like the competition. While we don't have a known commodity like CP or TD, we do have three or possibly four (Nash) guys battling it out, and they all look like they could start on NFL teams. Whether any of them will turn into something 'special' is unkown, but at the very least, we should be able to get the kind of production that we got out of Droughns and MA.
    The human body has two ends on it: one to create with and one to sit on. Sometimes people get their ends reversed. When this happens they need a kick in the seat of the pants. --- Theodore Roosevelt

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    • #3
      yes he is.... but he also plays ALOT more then any other running back.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
        Looks like Cedric Cobbs could have a little something going on here... He's the league leader in rushing yards in the preseason, and has caught Shanny's eye:


        We'll see I guess
        I think Shanahan already knows who the starter is. It's pointless IMO to put the RB's out there with the chance of getting injured. If Cobbs wins the job, I'll root for him. Either Tatum or Mike Bell I would like to see win it but I will support whoever starts!
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mike Bell NewTD
          yes he is.... but he also plays ALOT more then any other running back.
          You didn't quote anyone, but I think what you are saying is that Cobbs has played a lot more than the other running backs. If so, then that really isn't accurate. Cobbs has only had two carries more than Mike Bell, yet has quite a few more yards.

          It is true that Cobbs has been playing against 2nd, 3rd and even some 4th teamers, and some 1st teamers in the first game when Detroit put some starters in at the end of the game to try and preserve the win.

          Anyway, here are the stats:

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          Player                     G  Att Att/G Yds Lng Avg Yds/G TDs 20+ 
          Cedric Cobbs          3   28  9.3  161  26  5.8  53.7    1     0 
          Mike Bell                 3   26  8.7  113  34  4.3  37.7    2     0 
          Tatum Bell              3   22  7.3   86   15  3.9  28.7    1     0 
          Damien Nash          2   14  7.0   72   14   5.1 36.0    1     0
          The human body has two ends on it: one to create with and one to sit on. Sometimes people get their ends reversed. When this happens they need a kick in the seat of the pants. --- Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Ok, to take it a step further, I have taken the top 50 (48 actually) running backs. To make an even breaking point, it is anyone with 19 or more carries. This is sorterd by Avg, which is YPC.

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            [B]Player	                Team	G	Att	Att/G	Yds	Lng	Avg	Yds/G	TDs	20+[/B]
            DeDe Dorsey	CIN	3	20	6.7	149	46	7.5	49.7	0	0
            Michael Turner	SD	3	23	7.7	151	45	6.6	50.3	3	0
            Jerious Norwood	ATL	3	24	8	145	62	6	48.3	1	0
            [COLOR=SandyBrown]Cedric Cobbs	DEN	3	28	9.3	161	26	5.8	53.7	1	0[/COLOR]
            Laurence Maroney	NE	3	19	6.3	106	27	5.6	35.3	1	0
            Patrick Cobbs	NE	3	26	8.7	143	36	5.5	47.7	2	0
            Wali Lundy	HOU	3	26	8.7	143	25	5.5	47.7	1	0
            Vernand Morency	HOU	3	24	8	131	43	5.5	43.7	2	0
            Frank Gore	SF	3	26	8.7	140	18	5.4	46.7	1	0
            Willis McGahee	BUF	3	23	7.7	122	61	5.3	40.7	1	0
            Jamal Branch	NO	3	25	8.3	120	29	4.8	40	1	0
            Tyson Thompson	DAL	3	30	10	139	25	4.6	46.3	0	0
            Earnest Graham	TB	3	27	9	124	18	4.6	41.3	0	0
            Marlion Jackson	ATL	2	25	12.5	115	14	4.6	57.5	0	0
            [COLOR=SandyBrown]Mike Bell	               DEN	3	26	8.7	113	34	4.3	37.7	2	0[/COLOR]
            Reuben Droughns	CLE	3	19	6.3	82	27	4.3	27.3	0	0
            Maurice Morris	SEA	2	23	11.5	92	33	4	46	0	0
            [COLOR=SandyBrown]Tatum Bell	DEN	3	22	7.3	86	15	3.9	28.7	1	0[/COLOR]
            Ray Perkins	SD	3	40	13.3	151	16	3.8	50.3	1	0
            Marion Barber	DAL	3	29	9.7	109	15	3.8	36.3	1	0
            Larry Johnson	KC	3	20	6.7	75	14	3.8	25	1	0
            Steven Jackson	STL	3	19	6.3	73	23	3.8	24.3	0	0
            LaMont Jordan	OAK	4	33	8.2	123	14	3.7	30.8	1	0
            Justin Fargas	OAK	4	31	7.8	116	15	3.7	29	1	0
            Derrick Blaylock	NYJ	3	25	8.3	93	13	3.7	31	0	0
            Carey Davis	TB	3	24	8	88	14	3.7	29.3	0	0
            Cedric Houston	NYJ	3	19	6.3	70	20	3.7	23.3	0	0
            P.J. Pope	                CHI	3	25	8.3	84	14	3.4	28	0	0
            Tony Fisher	STL	3	21	7	71	13	3.4	23.7	1	0
            J.J. Arrington	ARI	3	20	6.7	67	12	3.4	22.3	0	0
            Brandon Jacobs	NYG	3	26	8.7	87	14	3.3	29	3	0
            Maurice Jones-Drew	JAC	3	22	7.3	72	18	3.3	24	0	0
            DeAngelo Williams	CAR	3	21	7	69	20	3.3	23	0	0
            Corey Dillon	NE	3	20	6.7	65	8	3.3	21.7	1	0
            ReShard Lee	OAK	4	33	8.2	102	19	3.1	25.5	0	0
            Ronnie Brown	MIA	3	28	9.3	88	11	3.1	29.3	0	0
            Kevin Jones	DET	3	24	8	75	13	3.1	25	0	0
            Quincy Wilson	CIN	3	31	10.3	89	11	2.9	29.7	0	0
            Heath Evans	NE	3	19	6.3	56	12	2.9	18.7	2	0
            Julius Jones	DAL	3	35	11.7	99	11	2.8	33	0	0
            Chester Taylor	MIN	3	29	9.7	81	17	2.8	27	0	0
            Najeh Davenport	GB	3	22	7.3	62	12	2.8	20.7	0	0
            James Sims	NYG	3	24	8	64	10	2.7	21.3	0	0
            Lionel Gates	BUF	3	21	7	56	10	2.7	18.7	2	0
            Travis Henry	TEN	3	21	7	53	9	2.5	17.7	1	0
            Duce Staley	PIT	3	23	7.7	46	6	2	15.3	0	0
            Joseph Addai	IND	3	21	7	32	7	1.5	10.7	1	0
            Last edited by tnedator; 08-29-2006, 08:31 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by tnedator
              Ok, to take it a step further, I have taken the top 50 (48 actually) running backs. To make an even breaking point, it is anyone with 19 or more carries. This is sorterd by Avg, which is YPC.

              Code:
              [B]Player	                Team	G	Att	Att/G	Yds	Lng	Avg	Yds/G	TDs	20+[/B]
              DeDe Dorsey	CIN	3	20	6.7	149	46	7.5	49.7	0	0
              Michael Turner	SD	3	23	7.7	151	45	6.6	50.3	3	0
              Jerious Norwood	ATL	3	24	8	145	62	6	48.3	1	0
              [COLOR=SandyBrown]Cedric Cobbs	DEN	3	28	9.3	161	26	5.8	53.7	1	0[/COLOR]
              Laurence Maroney	NE	3	19	6.3	106	27	5.6	35.3	1	0
              Patrick Cobbs	NE	3	26	8.7	143	36	5.5	47.7	2	0
              Wali Lundy	HOU	3	26	8.7	143	25	5.5	47.7	1	0
              Vernand Morency	HOU	3	24	8	131	43	5.5	43.7	2	0
              Frank Gore	SF	3	26	8.7	140	18	5.4	46.7	1	0
              Willis McGahee	BUF	3	23	7.7	122	61	5.3	40.7	1	0
              Jamal Branch	NO	3	25	8.3	120	29	4.8	40	1	0
              Tyson Thompson	DAL	3	30	10	139	25	4.6	46.3	0	0
              Earnest Graham	TB	3	27	9	124	18	4.6	41.3	0	0
              Marlion Jackson	ATL	2	25	12.5	115	14	4.6	57.5	0	0
              [COLOR=SandyBrown]Mike Bell	               DEN	3	26	8.7	113	34	4.3	37.7	2	0[/COLOR]
              Reuben Droughns	CLE	3	19	6.3	82	27	4.3	27.3	0	0
              Maurice Morris	SEA	2	23	11.5	92	33	4	46	0	0
              [COLOR=SandyBrown]Tatum Bell	DEN	3	22	7.3	86	15	3.9	28.7	1	0[/COLOR]
              Ray Perkins	SD	3	40	13.3	151	16	3.8	50.3	1	0
              Marion Barber	DAL	3	29	9.7	109	15	3.8	36.3	1	0
              Larry Johnson	KC	3	20	6.7	75	14	3.8	25	1	0
              Steven Jackson	STL	3	19	6.3	73	23	3.8	24.3	0	0
              LaMont Jordan	OAK	4	33	8.2	123	14	3.7	30.8	1	0
              Justin Fargas	OAK	4	31	7.8	116	15	3.7	29	1	0
              Derrick Blaylock	NYJ	3	25	8.3	93	13	3.7	31	0	0
              Carey Davis	TB	3	24	8	88	14	3.7	29.3	0	0
              Cedric Houston	NYJ	3	19	6.3	70	20	3.7	23.3	0	0
              P.J. Pope	                CHI	3	25	8.3	84	14	3.4	28	0	0
              Tony Fisher	STL	3	21	7	71	13	3.4	23.7	1	0
              J.J. Arrington	ARI	3	20	6.7	67	12	3.4	22.3	0	0
              Brandon Jacobs	NYG	3	26	8.7	87	14	3.3	29	3	0
              Maurice Jones-Drew	JAC	3	22	7.3	72	18	3.3	24	0	0
              DeAngelo Williams	CAR	3	21	7	69	20	3.3	23	0	0
              Corey Dillon	NE	3	20	6.7	65	8	3.3	21.7	1	0
              ReShard Lee	OAK	4	33	8.2	102	19	3.1	25.5	0	0
              Ronnie Brown	MIA	3	28	9.3	88	11	3.1	29.3	0	0
              Kevin Jones	DET	3	24	8	75	13	3.1	25	0	0
              Quincy Wilson	CIN	3	31	10.3	89	11	2.9	29.7	0	0
              Heath Evans	NE	3	19	6.3	56	12	2.9	18.7	2	0
              Julius Jones	DAL	3	35	11.7	99	11	2.8	33	0	0
              Chester Taylor	MIN	3	29	9.7	81	17	2.8	27	0	0
              Najeh Davenport	GB	3	22	7.3	62	12	2.8	20.7	0	0
              James Sims	NYG	3	24	8	64	10	2.7	21.3	0	0
              Lionel Gates	BUF	3	21	7	56	10	2.7	18.7	2	0
              Travis Henry	TEN	3	21	7	53	9	2.5	17.7	1	0
              Duce Staley	PIT	3	23	7.7	46	6	2	15.3	0	0
              Joseph Addai	IND	3	21	7	32	7	1.5	10.7	1	0

              Hey man, just curious, where did you get those stats? a web site or something?

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              • #8
                Forget Cedric Cobbs, He wont do the . Our Starting Running Back needs to do this .

                Plus, Mike and Tatum Bell are up against the Starters and not the third and fourth teamers.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 4th Amigo
                  Hey man, just curious, where did you get those stats? a web site or something?
                  The NFL.com site.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CB Bronco Fan
                    Forget Cedric Cobbs, He wont do the . Our Starting Running Back needs to do this .

                    Plus, Mike and Tatum Bell are up against the Starters and not the third and fourth teamers.
                    I'm with you. I've been saying that all along. I think:
                    • Tatum should have the job
                    • Mike has done enough to hold on to the job
                    • Cobbs will need to wait in line until someone faulters


                    And finally, I hope that the Bells are running so well, that Cobbs waits in line for a real long time.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CB Bronco Fan
                      Forget Cedric Cobbs, He wont do the . Our Starting Running Back needs to do this .

                      Plus, Mike and Tatum Bell are up against the Starters and not the third and fourth teamers.
                      I could care less what he does, as long as he gets the job done... I'd rather have a RB like CP that celebrates in other ways anyway -- although I do love the salute.

                      You never know though, just look at Reuben Droughns, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson. Popping in from nowhere.

                      And you say that Mike and Tatum are up against the starters, but yet, they're not doing a very good job(Mike did good against Tennessee, but they're garbage). So yeah, if it doesn't work, I would think that Shanny would give Cobbs a chance, and also would give Dayne a chance
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
                        I could care less what he does, as long as he gets the job done... I'd rather have a RB like CP that celebrates in other ways anyway -- although I do love the salute.

                        You never know though, just look at Reuben Droughns, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson. Popping in from nowhere.

                        And you say that Mike and Tatum are up against the starters, but yet, they're not doing a very good job(Mike did good against Tennessee, but they're garbage). So yeah, if it doesn't work, I would think that Shanny would give Cobbs a chance, and also would give Dayne a chance
                        They probably wouldnt give dayne a chance because he hasnt practiced and he lost the starting job.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tnedator
                          I'm with you. I've been saying that all along. I think:
                          • Tatum should have the job
                          • Mike has done enough to hold on to the job
                          • Cobbs will need to wait in line until someone faulters


                          And finally, I hope that the Bells are running so well, that Cobbs waits in line for a real long time.
                          NOT YET, Tatum shouldn't have the job, because Mike has been outplaying him. Mike hasn't done enough to hold onto the job, he won't do that until he surpasses the 1,000 yard mark, and I agree with you on the Cobbs statement...

                          It's Mike's job to lose, but I'm game for whoever wins it
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CB Bronco Fan
                            They probably wouldnt give dayne a chance because he hasnt practiced and he lost the starting job.
                            Yeah true, he'll probably be on the next list of cuts -- but still, as I said before, you never know in our system
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ReleaseTheBeast7
                              NOT YET, Tatum shouldn't have the job, because Mike has been outplaying him. Mike hasn't done enough to hold onto the job, he won't do that until he surpasses the 1,000 yard mark, and I agree with you on the Cobbs statement...

                              It's Mike's job to lose, but I'm game for whoever wins it
                              I was referring to holding on to the job until the season opens, not permanently. I just think it is unlikely that he loses the job on Thursday, so I think M. Bell starts the season as starter. Afterf that, who knows.

                              As to Tatum. He has explosive speed, and I think too much as been made about how he wears down late in games, etc. I think with his play making ability, he should be given the shot to see if he can carry the load, but at this point it doesn't look like Shanny agrees, and he knows more than me about running a football team.
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