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    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?...C-DT9705204233

    DENVER -- The Broncos are off to their best start ever after
    five games on defense, but their offense is a big concern,
    averaging just 12.4 points.

    Both starting wide receivers Rod Smith and Javon Walker have
    issued veiled criticisms of what they consider conservative calls
    and both have said this week that "I just work here," when
    pressed about what can be done to jump-start the stagnant offense.

    Jake Plummer said everybody's frustrated with the unit's
    inefficiency.

    "It's not frustration in any single-minded or egotistical way.
    It's frustration because we all want to play better," Plummer
    said. "When you play better and you score more, everyone's getting
    the ball. This offense, it's not, 'Oh, just Rod's (Smith) catching
    every pass and touchdown.' If we're scoring more points, it just
    means more guys are going to have their hands on the ball (and)
    more guys are going to get opportunities to score.

    "We're a little frustrated as a group, but like I said, we're
    not mad and yelling at each other and cussing the coaches out.
    We've all got to be in this thing together."

    The Broncos' passing game has consisted mostly of short screens
    and dump-off passes so far but Plummer said he hasn't approached
    the coaching staff about calling more long passes.

    "That's usually the coaches' call," Plummer said. "We have
    game plans in every week that have that in it. It's just a matter
    of the type of game you're in and obviously the feel the coaches
    have. I'm not going to go in -- Mike Shanahan's been a genius in
    this league on the offensive side -- and tell him as a coach what to
    do."

    Plummer said he has had discussions about the offense with
    Shanahan, however.

    "There's some of that that goes on, obviously. That's stuff
    that goes on behind closed doors that you guys will never hear
    about," Plummer told reporters. "As a team, you've got to stick
    together, and that's what we're doing. We're 4-1. Offensively,
    we've struggled, but if we pick it up a little bit each week and
    keep getting better and better, things will happen."

    ^------<

    ^RBs R US:@ A common notion about the Denver Broncos offense is
    that coach Mike Shanahan can plug in any regular running back into
    his backfield and turn him into a star in his system.

    That criticism -- or admiration, depending on one's point of view
    -- ignores the success some of Shanahan's former ball carriers have
    had elsewhere, players such as Washington's Clinton Portis and
    Cleveland's Reuben Droughns, whom the Broncos will face Sunday.

    Droughns, a castoff in Detroit, signed with Denver in 2002 and
    after several fine seasons was dealt to Cleveland before last
    season for defensive linemen Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers.

    Last year, he became the first Browns running back since 1985 to
    rush for more than 1,000 yards, finishing with 1,232 yards on the
    ground to go with another 369 through the air.

    Those numbers probably speak more to Shanahan's acumen as a
    personnel man and his skills at finding diamonds in the rough.

    "Well, Reuben has been an excellent player for us and obviously
    has been an excellent player for Cleveland and you like to see good
    people have success, just not this coming Sunday," Shanahan said.
    "You have got to have an excellent offensive line and you have got
    to have a lot of skill. It is not easy to run the football in the
    National Football League. We have been very fortunate with the
    talented backs that we have had."

    ^------<

    ^"BROWNCOS" RETURN:@ Ebenezer Ekuban, Gerard Warren, Michael
    Myers and Kenard Lang are all Cleveland castoffs who have found
    success with the Broncos.

    "Any time that you have been at a place you want to play your
    best against that team and everybody has emotions but you like to
    keep them in check," coach Mike Shanahan said.

    The foursome say they enjoy Denver much more than Cleveland in
    every way possible.

    "Any time that you are winning ... it is a much better
    environment," Shanahan said. "I don't care where you are at."

    The Broncos acquired Ekuban, Myers, Warren and Courtney Brown
    from Cleveland last season after Romeo Crennel was hired as the
    Browns coach and implemented a 3-4 defense to replace the 4-3. The
    Broncos added Lang this year after the Browns released him.

    "We were interested in all of those players a year before and
    we talked to (former Browns coach) Butch Davis and they were not
    interested in trading any one of those players," Shanahan said.
    "When a new coaching staff comes in, especially with a different
    scheme, we continued the process and talked to the people in charge
    about a possible trade."

    ^------<

    ^TERRORISM THREAT:@ A Web site is claiming that seven NFL
    football stadiums, including Cleveland Browns Stadium where the
    Broncos play Sunday, will be hit with radiological dirty bombs this
    weekend, but the government on Wednesday expressed doubts about the
    threat.

    The warning mentioned NFL stadiums in New York, Miami, Atlanta,
    Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland.

    "I just talked to (team spokesman) Jim Saccomano, who's heard
    from the league that the threat is not credible. Until we hear
    further notice, right now we'll treat it as that," Denver coach
    Mike Shanahan said following practice Wednesday.

    "Things like this occur all the time. That's part of the NFL.
    According to the league, it's not credible, so we'll take it as
    that."

    ^------<

    ^BRONCOS NOTES:@ FB Kyle Johnson (ankle) missed practice
    Wednesday. He's questionable for Sunday. RB Cedric Cobbs (ankle) is
    doubtful. ... Walker said he got no grief from Shanahan for his
    comments Monday that he wanted more passes thrown his way.







    This story is from ESPN.com's automated news wire. Wire index
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    Thank you for everything Darrent. I'll never forget #27.


  • #2
    great post cp to u

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    • #3
      yeah yeah, we all talked about the offensive woes in Denver.....Good thing the players are well aware of the issue. Let's hope they spark something this weekend!!
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      Thank you for everything Darrent. I'll never forget #27.

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      • #4
        Nice article thanks.

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        • #5
          Defense is dandy but Broncos know they need more offense

          I just thought I'd pass along this bit from the NFL Newswire:
          Defense is dandy but Broncos know they need more offense

          DENVER -- The Broncos are off to their best start ever after
          five games on defense, but their offense is a big concern,
          averaging just 12.4 points.

          Both starting wide receivers Rod Smith and Javon Walker have
          issued veiled criticisms of what they consider conservative calls
          and both have said this week that "I just work here," when
          pressed about what can be done to jump-start the stagnant offense.

          Jake Plummer said everybody's frustrated with the unit's
          inefficiency.

          "It's not frustration in any single-minded or egotistical way.
          It's frustration because we all want to play better," Plummer
          said. "When you play better and you score more, everyone's getting
          the ball. This offense, it's not, 'Oh, just Rod's (Smith) catching
          every pass and touchdown.' If we're scoring more points, it just
          means more guys are going to have their hands on the ball (and)
          more guys are going to get opportunities to score.

          "We're a little frustrated as a group, but like I said, we're
          not mad and yelling at each other and cussing the coaches out.
          We've all got to be in this thing together."

          The Broncos' passing game has consisted mostly of short screens
          and dump-off passes so far but Plummer said he hasn't approached
          the coaching staff about calling more long passes.

          "That's usually the coaches' call," Plummer said. "We have
          game plans in every week that have that in it. It's just a matter
          of the type of game you're in and obviously the feel the coaches
          have. I'm not going to go in -- Mike Shanahan's been a genius in
          this league on the offensive side -- and tell him as a coach what to
          do."

          Plummer said he has had discussions about the offense with
          Shanahan, however.

          "There's some of that that goes on, obviously. That's stuff
          that goes on behind closed doors that you guys will never hear
          about," Plummer told reporters. "As a team, you've got to stick
          together, and that's what we're doing. We're 4-1. Offensively,
          we've struggled, but if we pick it up a little bit each week and
          keep getting better and better, things will happen."

          -----------------------

          RBs R US: A common notion about the Denver Broncos offense is
          that coach Mike Shanahan can plug in any regular running back into
          his backfield and turn him into a star in his system.

          That criticism -- or admiration, depending on one's point of view
          -- ignores the success some of Shanahan's former ball carriers have
          had elsewhere, players such as Washington's Clinton Portis and
          Cleveland's Reuben Droughns, whom the Broncos will face Sunday.

          Droughns, a castoff in Detroit, signed with Denver in 2002 and
          after several fine seasons was dealt to Cleveland before last
          season for defensive linemen Ebenezer Ekuban and Michael Myers.

          Last year, he became the first Browns running back since 1985 to
          rush for more than 1,000 yards, finishing with 1,232 yards on the
          ground to go with another 369 through the air.

          Those numbers probably speak more to Shanahan's acumen as a
          personnel man and his skills at finding diamonds in the rough.

          "Well, Reuben has been an excellent player for us and obviously
          has been an excellent player for Cleveland and you like to see good
          people have success, just not this coming Sunday," Shanahan said.
          "You have got to have an excellent offensive line and you have got
          to have a lot of skill. It is not easy to run the football in the
          National Football League. We have been very fortunate with the
          talented backs that we have had."

          -----------------------

          "BROWNCOS" RETURN: Ebenezer Ekuban, Gerard Warren, Michael
          Myers and Kenard Lang are all Cleveland castoffs who have found
          success with the Broncos.

          "Any time that you have been at a place you want to play your
          best against that team and everybody has emotions but you like to
          keep them in check," coach Mike Shanahan said.

          The foursome say they enjoy Denver much more than Cleveland in
          every way possible.

          "Any time that you are winning ... it is a much better
          environment," Shanahan said. "I don't care where you are at."

          The Broncos acquired Ekuban, Myers, Warren and Courtney Brown
          from Cleveland last season after Romeo Crennel was hired as the
          Browns coach and implemented a 3-4 defense to replace the 4-3. The
          Broncos added Lang this year after the Browns released him.

          "We were interested in all of those players a year before and
          we talked to (former Browns coach) Butch Davis and they were not
          interested in trading any one of those players," Shanahan said.
          "When a new coaching staff comes in, especially with a different
          scheme, we continued the process and talked to the people in charge
          about a possible trade."

          -----------------------

          TERRORISM THREAT: A Web site is claiming that seven NFL
          football stadiums, including Cleveland Browns Stadium where the
          Broncos play Sunday, will be hit with radiological dirty bombs this
          weekend, but the government on Wednesday expressed doubts about the
          threat.

          The warning mentioned NFL stadiums in New York, Miami, Atlanta,
          Seattle, Houston, Oakland and Cleveland.

          "I just talked to (team spokesman) Jim Saccomano, who's heard
          from the league that the threat is not credible. Until we hear
          further notice, right now we'll treat it as that," Denver coach
          Mike Shanahan said following practice Wednesday.

          "Things like this occur all the time. That's part of the NFL.
          According to the league, it's not credible, so we'll take it as
          that."

          -----------------------

          BRONCOS NOTES: FB Kyle Johnson (ankle) missed practice
          Wednesday. He's questionable for Sunday. RB Cedric Cobbs (ankle) is
          doubtful. ... Walker said he got no grief from Shanahan for his
          comments Monday that he wanted more passes thrown his way.
          "You can't take the sky from me..."
          ------
          "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding"

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          • #6
            Sorry Jav, Astrass already beat you to it

            http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=73358
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            • #7
              Denver O bashing thread #1219684168746574968541. its really getting old

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              • #8
                Thanks for the Read Jav.. its good to hear/see that the players are striving for a more effective offense. You can read the frustration in their comments. HOpefully that shows up on the field!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jazzman1987
                  Denver O bashing thread #1219684168746574968541. its really getting old
                  how is this bashing the O???? This is quotes from the players, did you even read the article, or did you just skip it and assume what it said?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ravage!!!
                    how is this bashing the O???? This is quotes from the players, did you even read the article, or did you just skip it and assume what it said?
                    i assumed :yep: but can you blame me?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jazzman1987
                      i assumed :yep: but can you blame me?
                      well.. yeah. I mean, I'm one that hates the way the offense has been performing, but I didn't think it was a bashing thread. Jav always posts good stuff, and never starts a 'bashing' thread.

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                      • #12
                        I can't believe I had to merge my own thread. How embarrassing!


                        Anyway, I was not bashing at all. But the article does point out that our offense is probably more frustrated than are the fans. I'm still optimistic that things will get back on track pretty soon.


                        Also, does anybody think that maybe the Patriots were right about Cobbs? He couldn't stay healthy there and he's been injured the entire season for us so far. Hmm...
                        "You can't take the sky from me..."
                        ------
                        "You can't shake the Devil's hand and say you're only kidding"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Javalon
                          I can't believe I had to merge my own thread. How embarrassing!


                          Anyway, I was not bashing at all. But the article does point out that our offense is probably more frustrated than are the fans. I'm still optimistic that things will get back on track pretty soon.


                          Also, does anybody think that maybe the Patriots were right about Cobbs? He couldn't stay healthy there and he's been injured the entire season for us so far. Hmm...
                          I think it's interesting but, the way our offense has performed, would he really help produce more than Tatum? I dont think so. But that's me
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Javalon
                            I can't believe I had to merge my own thread. How embarrassing!


                            Anyway, I was not bashing at all. But the article does point out that our offense is probably more frustrated than are the fans. I'm still optimistic that things will get back on track pretty soon.


                            Also, does anybody think that maybe the Patriots were right about Cobbs? He couldn't stay healthy there and he's been injured the entire season for us so far. Hmm...
                            yeah. We knew there was a reason... thats why I rarely get my hopes up for castoffs... I always figure they were castoff for a reason! Although, we have had some GREAT adds to our teams that were castoffs from others.

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