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  • rst08tierney
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    Originally posted by sra84 View Post
    The right GM, the right coach, and the right QB....

    The team we're playing today did all 3 and they're turning it around in a year's time. Look where they were week one last year to now.

    Elway has had five years since Super Bowl 50.... what coach, what QB has he had success in hiring or drafting? Has this team shown any improvement? No, it's been consistent failure.
    Broncos have been looking for a QB since Elway left and apparently wouldn't know one if they had one.

    Since Elway retired the Broncos have let the following QB's walk who won games :

    Griese
    Plummer
    Cutler

    All these QB's were more then serviceable and need defenses to win. Manning was a GIFT to the Broncos and any GM could have made it work. Elway had players reaching out to him for an opertunity to ride with the sheriff. Face it. Manning was the teams GM and yes, elways worse at drafting then Mike Shanahan was.

    This team needs an over hall and it stats with the brass.Very frustrated.

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  • sra84
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    The right GM, the right coach, and the right QB....

    The team we're playing today did all 3 and they're turning it around in a year's time. Look where they were week one last year to now.

    Elway has had five years since Super Bowl 50.... what coach, what QB has he had success in hiring or drafting? Has this team shown any improvement? No, it's been consistent failure.

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  • Sophia23
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    I'm optimistic every week. It never ends well for me. Someday though, we'll be back on top.

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  • Bates
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    Originally posted by Tdeng88 View Post
    I love how everyone just bashes coaching and focuses on the offensive struggles and overlooks another new system and numerous rookies. Lindsay opens everything up for that side of the ball in my opinion and I'd like to see fant get the ball more consistently. But to ignore how well the defense is being coached (you do realize that's also coaching) when you factor in all the injuries. Player after player has stepped up. Outside of McManus I really have no reasoning for the subpar special teams play. I wish fangio would have let McManus boot that early long field goal last week. Without Callahan and Harris on top of all the other injuries we needed to be aggressive. Not going to crucify him over that decision tho. I think people need to look at what's transpired since 2015 instead of acting like its been forever. Four teams have won it all since we have. Compare that to other teams Detroit's won one playoff game since 57... so since 2015 First year we lost pfm who was garbage in 2015 but still pfm, and multiple key defensive players. We just miss the playoffs and that's when we lost our superbowl winning coaching staff due to health issues but let's blame elway makes sense... they try to run that d back one last time. And here we are in a true rebuild with few holes if we were relatively healthy but were young you cant argue the amount of talent on offense the oldest of them is sutton and lindsay in their third years tho. Add all that talent and a great defensive head coach who with another offseason can add more players to his system. Fangio is a good defensive evaluator. And you also look at our cap situation which is good. So let's fire elway he only brings us to superbowls 20 percent of the time since hes been gm and everyone else cause they havent won instantly. Makes sense to me
    So we should forgive him at this point for years of overlooking the need to overhaul the Offensive line? To grab a competent quarterback? To boost up our poor ST play (The Kid aside)? These are 3 major areas we have been struggling in for years and he has not once attempted to fix any of these issues? So yes, that is most definitely fireable offenses in the eyes of most Denver fans.

    Don't compare us to other franchises. We are a franchise built on winning. And when we have down years, it is because we are building for years of playoff runs. Right now we have spent 5 years of losing, to build up another 5 years of losing. If you are okay with that, go be a Jets fans, we have higher standards in Denver.

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  • Tdeng88
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    I love how everyone just bashes coaching and focuses on the offensive struggles and overlooks another new system and numerous rookies. Lindsay opens everything up for that side of the ball in my opinion and I'd like to see fant get the ball more consistently. But to ignore how well the defense is being coached (you do realize that's also coaching) when you factor in all the injuries. Player after player has stepped up. Outside of McManus I really have no reasoning for the subpar special teams play. I wish fangio would have let McManus boot that early long field goal last week. Without Callahan and Harris on top of all the other injuries we needed to be aggressive. Not going to crucify him over that decision tho. I think people need to look at what's transpired since 2015 instead of acting like its been forever. Four teams have won it all since we have. Compare that to other teams Detroit's won one playoff game since 57... so since 2015 First year we lost pfm who was garbage in 2015 but still pfm, and multiple key defensive players. We just miss the playoffs and that's when we lost our superbowl winning coaching staff due to health issues but let's blame elway makes sense... they try to run that d back one last time. And here we are in a true rebuild with few holes if we were relatively healthy but were young you cant argue the amount of talent on offense the oldest of them is sutton and lindsay in their third years tho. Add all that talent and a great defensive head coach who with another offseason can add more players to his system. Fangio is a good defensive evaluator. And you also look at our cap situation which is good. So let's fire elway he only brings us to superbowls 20 percent of the time since hes been gm and everyone else cause they havent won instantly. Makes sense to me

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  • GMTD
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    Originally posted by welderhead View Post
    Broncos are an injury machine when it comes to tight ends. Is that coaching or just bad luck? I have to believe it is just bad luck but damn.
    I don't even think it's just tight ends. From memory, we seem recently to have taken a punt on players with injury histories whose talent belied their draft ranking, in the hope that they would play to their talent rather than their injury history.

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  • broncolee
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    They’ve been known to draft broken tight ends. It’s not just bad luck.

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  • welderhead
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    Broncos are an injury machine when it comes to tight ends. Is that coaching or just bad luck? I have to believe it is just bad luck but damn.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    Things have been pretty dismal in Denver. But you never know when the team starts to click, and the game starts to slow down a little bit for our QB.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

    The Broncos have not done very much positive anything on offense and it's true "any game is a potential winnable game in sports" but why do you believe the Broncos coaching staff is going to do something, anything different in the remaining games that will give them a decent chance to win? I believe we will continue to see the same "no imagination" play call that will prevent the offense to succeed and win.
    I'm not a coach or a player, I don't know what their gameplan will be at all the remainder of the season. Thus I made an open ended post about they could lose out or win out because that's just sports.

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  • jazzbodog
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    Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
    Any game is a potential winnable game in sports. We just saw Dallas almost trip up the Steelers, Panthers almost beat the Chiefs, and that's just from this week, the season has had it's fair share of close calls and surprises.
    But that's sports in general, not just football.

    So Denver could win their next few games, should they? Should getting healthy and getting a good draft spot be the plan? Should trying to win out be the plan?

    Can't just say it's all over now or that this season is a wash. 2020 offseason was the traditional NFL offseason, add in injuries, rookies, current players still having to gel with the playbook and coaching, there are enough excuses to say nobody should lose their job in the coming offseason.

    People should have realistic expectations when it comes to some sports teams.
    The Broncos have not done very much positive anything on offense and it's true "any game is a potential winnable game in sports" but why do you believe the Broncos coaching staff is going to do something, anything different in the remaining games that will give them a decent chance to win? I believe we will continue to see the same "no imagination" play call that will prevent the offense to succeed and win.

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    Originally posted by TheAsianPA View Post
    No. Broncos are an easy win for opposing teams, and it starts with Lock and the piss poor coaching. 2021 may be the last year we see Elway, Fangio and Lock together.

    There aren't any games left on the schedule that I think we can beat, minus one game to the chargers or or one to the Dolphins, but it wouldn't surprise me either if we lose out. Elway has made a complete mess of this team, from coaching down the players, and won't be better until he is gone.
    Totally Agree No More Wins for the Denver Broncos This Year !!

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  • broncolee
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    The Broncos are not an easy win. They are usually a tough out.

    They better beat the Raiders at least once.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Any game is a potential winnable game in sports. We just saw Dallas almost trip up the Steelers, Panthers almost beat the Chiefs, and that's just from this week, the season has had it's fair share of close calls and surprises.
    But that's sports in general, not just football.

    So Denver could win their next few games, should they? Should getting healthy and getting a good draft spot be the plan? Should trying to win out be the plan?

    Can't just say it's all over now or that this season is a wash. 2020 offseason was the traditional NFL offseason, add in injuries, rookies, current players still having to gel with the playbook and coaching, there are enough excuses to say nobody should lose their job in the coming offseason.

    People should have realistic expectations when it comes to some sports teams.

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  • TheAsianPA
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    No. Broncos are an easy win for opposing teams, and it starts with Lock and the piss poor coaching. 2021 may be the last year we see Elway, Fangio and Lock together.

    There aren't any games left on the schedule that I think we can beat, minus one game to the chargers or or one to the Dolphins, but it wouldn't surprise me either if we lose out. Elway has made a complete mess of this team, from coaching down the players, and won't be better until he is gone.

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