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  • CanDB
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    I am not saying it's a given but I hope we don't get too down on Lock and/or the team if we come up short in the next couple of games. I think you go with it for a while before looking for change.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by Chronoless View Post
    I honestly think you stick it out this year. Draft a OL (Left, that can play right tackle) in the Draft, maybe sign Borles if you can get him for a reasonable price and term. Give Drew the whole off-season with the same scheme, and watch the weapons (Hamler, Jeudy, and Robert O) go into their 2nd year (the jump year) and then start next year with this group. If there is no improvement, then you can start looking for another QB, maybe coach sometime next year. (2021 Season)

    The team needs consistency for once. You can't keep changing Coaches/Young QB every year.
    thats how i feel atm, but i am gonna relook at how i feel next season.

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  • Chronoless
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    I honestly think you stick it out this year. Draft a OL (Left, that can play right tackle) in the Draft, maybe sign Borles if you can get him for a reasonable price and term. Give Drew the whole off-season with the same scheme, and watch the weapons (Hamler, Jeudy, and Robert O) go into their 2nd year (the jump year) and then start next year with this group. If there is no improvement, then you can start looking for another QB, maybe coach sometime next year. (2021 Season)

    The team needs consistency for once. You can't keep changing Coaches/Young QB every year.

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    Eating Crow and Enjoying Every Slice. Way To Go Drew and Way To Go Denver Broncos !!

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  • CanDB
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    We need a "change" "don't change" chart!

    Here's my risky assessment:

    0 and 16 - "change".

    I'll get back to you later if I add more.

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  • samparnell
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    Yesterday's game looked pretty horrible to about halfway through the 3rd quarter. The players didn't give up and won in spite of being in a big hole on the scoreboard. There were two losses that didn't look good and two that were close in which the players played hard and didn't give up. They have won three of the last four games. Regardless of what happens on the scoreboard in future games, what may matter most will be observing how the players play. If they keep playing like they did yesterday, it might not be a good idea to make the kind of changes some in this thread are proposing.

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  • Broncos-R-Great
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    Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
    The offensive rankings and QB struggles are consistent with a franchise that has not retained an OC since Kubiak left. Elway's excuse for Paxton Lynch was that Lynch was drafted for Kubiak's system and then he got lost in the system changes. If that was the case, you have to wonder why they did not retain Rick Dennison to carry on with Kubiak's offense. After all, Vance Joseph himself worked with Kubiak and Dennison in Houston.

    In 2017, the OC was McCoy and in 2018 it was Musgrave. After drafting Drew Lock, Elway said it was important to give him some continuity. Well, that did not happen. Scangarello fired after one season, now Shurmur is already feeling the heat. No lesson learned.

    When the Broncos hired a rookie OC, which already implies early growing pains for a long-term potential, and then fired him after one season, that says it all. Clueless. Now they hired the "veteran", "experienced" OC and look at the results. The franchise can't make a decision on a system, OC, QB... At some point, you have to think maybe the problem is somewhere else, as in the inability to be patient and build something.

    Keep being like the Browns and see where this will end.
    I posted in another thread (or maybe this one), the problem with the Browns was they continued to hire the wrong coaches and pick the wrong players. They never had any continuity because they never had the people in place worth keeping. If you pick the wrong people like the Broncos have been doing, trying to force continuity only adds to the problem. Why stick with a lame duck coach or QB for years when it's clear from the beginning they're not answer?

    For example, sticking with VJ for a second season when it obvious he was bad pick led to another wasted year with Keenum in 2018. This rebuild they're going through now should've started in 2018, but they didn't because VJ was told win or else, he should've been fired at the end of 2017, there was no chance it was going to work giving him another year. They were forcing continuity for the sake of continuity.

    Until the right people are put in place, the losses will continue to add up, regardless how often changes are made. The win yesterday was something I don't think happens over the last few years, maybe it's a sign they're starting to turn the corner, at least gives us some hope.

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  • CanDB
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    3 and 4 sounds so much better, especially when down 21 points well into the 3rd. That might end up being a turning point in the season. If nothing else, it proves to the guys that they can do it, and it may provide the confidence and momentum to actually make this a winning season.

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by DENVERSB50CHAMP View Post
    2-5 Requires Change Right Like Benching Your 2nd Round QB who turns out is NOT the answer LOL and Firing Your Lame Duck OC Pat Sucks Shemurrrrrr Who was fired in Cleveland and NY LOL only to be hired here LOL 😂 Denver is a bottom 5 team time to draft a Real QB and hire a real OC.
    He was fired in NYC and Cleveland as a head coach. He worked his way upto head coach by being a good coordinator. There are people who are good coordinator and bad hc. Thats what Shurmur was suppose to be. But his offense has been meh so far.

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    I as Fan who made this Thread now saw that 2-4 Did require change and they did it by now becoming 3-4 Way To Go !!
    Last edited by DENVERSB50CHAMP; 11-02-2020, 12:30 PM.

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  • drhiii
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    The Broncos are not very good, are they?!

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  • sra84
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    It's also been 5 years since we beat the Chiefs.

    Unacceptable. No excuse.

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  • sra84
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    It's been 5 years since we won the Super Bowl, which was also our last playoff appearance.

    It's been nothing but disappointment since, so it's not unreasonable to be negative about this organization.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    (2-4 requires change.) I think we need to change our expectations, change our negative attitude, and start to support our young team and QB. And support our New coaches.
    Enjoy the competition and hope to be successful. Let the Season play out, and be happy for anything positive.

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  • sra84
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    Unfortunately, due to the pandemic, I think everyone gets a mulligan for the year.

    So that means not only do we have to put up with this wasted year, but we must also suffer through this garbage next year as well.

    It's so depressing to know there's nothing to look forward to for at least a couple years.

    Fire Fangio. Fire Shurmur.... and Elway has to go. I'm done with them.

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