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  • Originally posted by Amy-Selic View Post
    Yeah maybe with the exception of murray? I think he has low key been performing well this season for the cards. Lock hasnt lit up the yards but his decision making has been sound, he has a lot of zip on the ball(cutler esque) and seems to make good decisions. right now thats a great sign after the garbage we have trotted onto the field the last few years
    Murray started all season and has one more win than Lock has. Granted Lock has the advantage of having a well coached defense behind him and Murray had... Vance Joseph.
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    • One of the things I really like about Lock is he has the ability to get short completions when the receiver is covered. He's done this consistently to keep the chains moving a few more times a game.. I haven't seen him make many bad throws. He's only had 3 ints in 5 games. The ability to make a few extra plays a game and avoiding sacks helps while not turning the ball over will win a lot of games.

      He's not getting much help and he's consistently been put in negative situations. Compare him to every QB we've had since Peyton. Os did well for a stretch, but that was only with a Super Bowl team and Kubiak. Lock doesn't have any more help on offense than they did. Lock had Sutton and the others had Sanders and DT. Lock has clearly outplayed Flacco and Flacco had Sanders and Sutton.

      Lock looks much better at this point in their careers than Cutler. Cutler took over a winning team that had a losing record with him. Lock took over a losing team and the Broncos had a winning record with him.

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      • Things look good!

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        • One of the things I like about him the most is how he moves around in the pocket and makes plays.

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          • His dancing is very cringe but he’s having fun and I think the players we have on the team respond to him very well. It’s a very young team and I believe players always play harder for someone they relate to because they don’t want to let you down. A certain MVP front runner has that going for him on his team. Flacco just wasn’t that no one wants to play with someone that shows no emotion at all. I just hope Lock doesn’t lose that over his career like some of these greats have.

            Even Von showed some vintage stuff yesterday despite the bum knee. First time I’ve seen him dip under a OT in a long time, granted he had to put his hand down to keep from falling whereas he didn’t when he was younger but it was still good to see. And I think it’s because he now has a QB on his team and one that enjoys the game.

            Next season should be a good season, if for nothing else we will at least beat the teams we should and probably surprise a few others. Lock hit it dead on the money about having fun on Sunday after putting in all the hard work throughout the week. The games are your chance to show off so have fun doing it.

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            • Originally posted by lvbronx View Post
              Lock looks much better at this point in their careers than Cutler. Cutler took over a winning team that had a losing record with him. Lock took over a losing team and the Broncos had a winning record with him.
              To be fair to Cutler, he had to deal with Shanahan not caring enough about defense.

              They almost lost this last game because the defense gave up a touchdown.

              It might have been a different end to the game if the Raiders only needed a victory to get into the playoffs. They certainly would have taken the game into overtime, if that had been the case.
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              • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                His dancing is very cringe but he’s having fun and I think the players we have on the team respond to him very well. It’s a very young team and I believe players always play harder for someone they relate to because they don’t want to let you down. A certain MVP front runner has that going for him on his team. Flacco just wasn’t that no one wants to play with someone that shows no emotion at all. I just hope Lock doesn’t lose that over his career like some of these greats have.

                Even Von showed some vintage stuff yesterday despite the bum knee. First time I’ve seen him dip under a OT in a long time, granted he had to put his hand down to keep from falling whereas he didn’t when he was younger but it was still good to see. And I think it’s because he now has a QB on his team and one that enjoys the game.

                Next season should be a good season, if for nothing else we will at least beat the teams we should and probably surprise a few others. Lock hit it dead on the money about having fun on Sunday after putting in all the hard work throughout the week. The games are your chance to show off so have fun doing it.
                If Von’s effort on defense is predicated on how he feels about the quarterback, it’s probably time to trade him away.

                I get that things feel better for everyone when they think the most important position in the game is secured. Lock certainly gives off that vibe, until he starts dancing. Von still has to give maximum effort, regardless of who’s at quarterback.
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                • Lock to Sutton for the TD vs Chargers was #4 on ESPN’s Top 10 Plays of the 2019 season. Pretty cool.

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                  • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                    Lock to Sutton for the TD vs Chargers was #4 on ESPN’s Top 10 Plays of the 2019 season. Pretty cool.
                    That’s super cool! Classic moment for sure. That catch was amazing. I admit I got a little choked up when they cut to his parents jumping for joy. Great moment to start a career.
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                    • Originally posted by RocketArm006 View Post
                      That’s super cool! Classic moment for sure. That catch was amazing. I admit I got a little choked up when they cut to his parents jumping for joy. Great moment to start a career.
                      Those things can be taken for granted. Making it to the NFL is special in itself, let alone throwing a touchdown. How many young players dream of playing quarterback at that level and don’t make it? Very special for sure.

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                      • Originally posted by Papa-pwn View Post
                        Lock has thrown 127 passes this year, here is where he stands among the 39 QBs who have attempted at least 125:

                        Completion %: 16th
                        TD %: 13th
                        Passer rating: 19th
                        QBR: 13th
                        ANY/A: 20th
                        Win %: 7th

                        29th best? Hmm. Nope. Looks solidly middle of the pack to me, and that's with these factors(among others) working against him:

                        1) a huge lack of practice throughout the year, starting in camp giving Hogan the majority of #2 reps
                        2) coming off of an injury
                        3) being a rookie, and the general lack of experience that comes with it

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                        He's pretty solid.
                        4.5 TD%
                        1.9 INT%
                        3.1 Sack%
                        Not a fumbler, decent mobility, good demeanor, leader.

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                        • Lets see. Drew Lock:

                          Record - 4 and 1
                          Passer rating - 89.7 (ahead of Rivers and Brady)
                          Only 3 pics out of 156 passes (1.9%, or just 0.6 per game). Rookies are known for multiple pic games...not this guy.
                          Only 5 sacks (3.2% of his passes, or just 1.0 per game)
                          Note: Flacco had 26 sacks or 9.9% of his passes

                          As I repeat....this kid has "ZIP"! The ball gets there in no time, and defenders have to blanket our receivers in order to prevent the completion. Arms like his can not be taught at this stage, other than perhaps additional strength training. You have strength or you better have accuracy! So far accuracy has not been a problem.

                          He is also mobile. Hence the low sack rate.

                          He looks confident, which can only motivate his peers.

                          And....he is likable.

                          We're set!!!!

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                          • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
                            Those things can be taken for granted. Making it to the NFL is special in itself, let alone throwing a touchdown. How many young players dream of playing quarterback at that level and don’t make it? Very special for sure.
                            Right? Kid comes in and immediately makes a splash, then continues solid play for the remainder of the season. Very unique and special indeed. I agree that these sort of moments can be taken for granted. If a fan can't stop and enjoy moments like this, then I don't know what you're watching for. It's just the beginning, but it was very enjoyable to watch a rookie QB swoop in and make such a large impact immediately.

                            Here's hoping we see a lot more of it for years to come.

                            Lock to Sutton for the touchdown. Has a nice ring to it.
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                            • John Elway: 'Unrealistic' to say Drew Lock won't start for Denver Broncos in 2020

                              https://www.espn.com/nfl/

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                              • Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                                Lets see. Drew Lock:

                                Record - 4 and 1
                                Passer rating - 89.7 (ahead of Rivers and Brady)
                                Only 3 pics out of 156 passes (1.9%, or just 0.6 per game). Rookies are known for multiple pic games...not this guy.
                                Only 5 sacks (3.2% of his passes, or just 1.0 per game)
                                Note: Flacco had 26 sacks or 9.9% of his passes

                                As I repeat....this kid has "ZIP"! The ball gets there in no time, and defenders have to blanket our receivers in order to prevent the completion. Arms like his can not be taught at this stage, other than perhaps additional strength training. You have strength or you better have accuracy! So far accuracy has not been a problem.

                                He is also mobile. Hence the low sack rate.

                                He looks confident, which can only motivate his peers.

                                And....he is likable.

                                We're set!!!!

                                All of this. Also, I think it's worth noting that his footwork as noticeably improved in a short amount of time. Still not perfect, but it's obvious the kid is listening to coaches and wants to improve.

                                Add to that his presser where he said (paraphrasing) "I think there's a couple of really good QBs nearby who played for this team. I plan on calling them to help me put together an offseason plan"

                                Freaking awesome. He's obviously bright and plans to use the resources around him to learn and improve. That's a true pro.
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