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  • Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
    Peyton Manning said in an interview,

    I’m a Bronco fan, I’m a Drew Lock fan," Manning told Klis. "Look, last year for anybody who had a new offensive coordinator and a younger quarterback it was going to be challenging.

    #7
    Well he's not wrong...but....I will always revert to other young rookie's or 2nd year guys that did have success. Herbert is rookie of the year and absolutely looks the part. Lock regressed, there is no denying that

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    • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post

      Well he's not wrong...but....I will always revert to other young rookie's or 2nd year guys that did have success. Herbert is rookie of the year and absolutely looks the part. Lock regressed, there is no denying that
      I thought so, I expected Lock to be better then he was.

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      • Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post

        Well he's not wrong...but....I will always revert to other young rookie's or 2nd year guys that did have success. Herbert is rookie of the year and absolutely looks the part. Lock regressed, there is no denying that
        It’s kinda hard to justify saying Lock regressed when he only had five games in his rookie season.

        He definitely needs to improve.

        If he stays in Denver, I hope he can take a Josh Allen like leap forward.
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        • Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post

          What else would he say? He got asked about Lock. Someone like Peyton isn't gonna go "Well he's trash."
          So much this. He's not a mental midget like some players. He's PFM. The guy always says the right things.

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          • Sportsbook moved the broncos to +1000 for Watson

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            • Originally posted by DiveInstructor View Post

              So much this. He's not a mental midget like some players. He's PFM. The guy always says the right things.
              Peyton is just a smart guy. He's not gonna drag any player, especially a young one. Imagine those headlines Monday "Peyton Manning called Drew Lock terrible." Too respectful of a guy.
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              • Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post
                Sportsbook moved the broncos to +1000 for Watson
                What was it before that?
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                • Originally posted by Gbt31 View Post

                  What was it before that?
                  +500

                  It's not looking good

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                  • Originally posted by rst08tierney View Post

                    +500

                    It's not looking good
                    Nice. Good! Thank you for that.
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                    • Originally posted by Gbt31 View Post

                      Nice. Good! Thank you for that.
                      So I guess you are anti-selling farm for Watson?
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                      • Originally posted by broncolee View Post

                        So I guess you are anti-selling farm for Watson?
                        Absolutely. Yeah, Watson got a bad draw with Billick(quite possible the worst GM/Coach in the past decade...maybe more), but seeing what Stafford went for....I don't even want to see the price tag for whatever team trades for him.
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                        • Originally posted by Gbt31 View Post

                          Absolutely. Yeah, Watson got a bad draw with Billick(quite possible the worst GM/Coach in the past decade...maybe more), but seeing what Stafford went for....I don't even want to see the price tag for whatever team trades for him.
                          by Billick you mean O'brien. I don't think Billick has coached for like 20 years. I mean he hasn't been a coach sense Watson was 12. so that out people typo right?
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                          • Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post

                            by Billick you mean O'brien. I don't think Billick has coached for like 20 years. I mean he hasn't been a coach sense Watson was 12. so that out people typo right?
                            My bad, too many beers during SB. Yeah, Bill O'Brien. My bad. Those damn B's, Brian Billick, Bill O'Brien...hahaha scatter brain.
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                            • Originally posted by Gbt31 View Post

                              My bad, too many beers during SB. Yeah, Bill O'Brien. My bad. Those damn B's, Brian Billick, Bill O'Brien...hahaha scatter brain.
                              understandable just be safe and don't drive. your fine just making sure I wasn't losing my mind.
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                              • Originally posted by Spice 1 View Post

                                They were 5th in the league in points allowed...come on now. I didn't start bringing old man Brady into the conversation either. That was all you, bud. If want to talk facts though, Brady has an all star offense, and one of the top 10 defenses in the NFL this year. That's why he won in Lambeau. Hell, that's why he went to Tampa in the first place. He knew what he was working with.

                                If Deshaun Watson was a crappy leader, we'd know about it. JJ Watt wouldn't have his back, either. The Texans probably would've traded him by now if they thought he was part of the problem. Remember all the stuff we heard about Cutty? How long did it take for stuff to come out after he got traded to Chicago? People didn't like the guy.
                                Whether Deshaun Watson is a crappy leader, I have no basis for saying, but he is not a leader that gets his team playing at a high level. There is clearly not an incremental improvement week to week as with the elite QBs. As for Cutler there were negative things in the Denver press about not treating Cable repair guys reasonably and him having a stronger arm than Elway.... but the dirty laundry about him as a teammate did not come out until way later.

                                The simple thing is that Texans are paying DW 40mill/year to bring them a SB, and he brought a 4-12 season, and many here want to pay 40million and 3 plus top draft picks - that is the only way of getting elite talent for cheap and expect us to be SB ready....

                                DWs' function as a teammate and team leader is seriously hampered when he throws his teammates and the club under the bus. Demanding a trade from a club that paid you at least 30 extra million than they needed to in order to keep you happy, and after a campaign where your team fell flat on your faces tells a lot of negative about character.

                                If/when DW is traded there wont be negative stuff coming out from other sources than players retiring because you don't want to alienate anyone. That is the reason it took Champ about 12 years after the Cutler trade to talk badly about him.

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