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  • Originally posted by underrated29 View Post

    I think Watson statistically actually outplayed mahomes.
    Wow - what a relevant stat that might be where the guy that "led" his team to 4 victories (2 over the worst team in NFL) OUTPLAYED the AFC Champion that put up 16 wins over elite teams going 1-1 with the SB champs and beating team they meet.

    Where do we sign up for the guy that showed the Jacksonville Jaguars who was last in that division?
    Last edited by BroncoFanDK; 02-22-2021, 07:38 AM.

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    • Lock statistically outplayed Watson in Houston!

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      • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post

        Wow - what a relevant stat that might be where the guy that "led" his team to 4 victories (2 over the worst team in NFL) OUTPLAYED the AFC Champion that put up 16 wins over elite teams going 1-1 with the SB champs and beating every other team from any other division.

        Where do we sign up for the guy that showed the Jacksonville Jaguars who was last in that division?
        It’s a team game though so somehow he doesn’t get credit for his wins or his game winning drives including the one over Mahomes but he will get credit for all those losses.

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        • Drew Lock gets plenty of blame

          Maybe next season he will get plenty of praise.
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          • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post

            Wow - what a relevant stat that might be where the guy that "led" his team to 4 victories (2 over the worst team in NFL) OUTPLAYED the AFC Champion that put up 16 wins over elite teams going 1-1 with the SB champs and beating team they meet.

            Where do we sign up for the guy that showed the Jacksonville Jaguars who was last in that division?
            Thats it? Thats all you can come up with? Are you serious?!?!?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂

            Oh you sweet sweet little gem. Youre trying so hard too I know.
            So far:
            FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
            1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. Biadazz Center, 3. OT

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            • Originally posted by broncolee View Post
              Drew Lock gets plenty of blame

              Maybe next season he will get plenty of praise.
              Hopefully he will. Unless of course we have Watson or Dak....maybe fields. Any other qb Paton brings in I believe drew can beat out for the starters job.
              So far:
              FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
              1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. Biadazz Center, 3. OT

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              • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post

                It’s a team game though so somehow he doesn’t get credit for his wins or his game winning drives including the one over Mahomes but he will get credit for all those losses.
                So Lock does not get credit for beating Watson last year, but Watson gets credit for beating Mahomes.
                Lock putting up higher win percentages last year and this does not count.
                It is a team game and you are sure that selling out the teams cap space and draft capital to get Watson will make the team great, but Watson has no part in the team he is on failing. Loosing is on everybody else than the QB, even though the QB is the most important player, he has no share in the team failure when he is called Deshaun Watson.

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                • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post

                  So Lock does not get credit for beating Watson last year, but Watson gets credit for beating Mahomes.
                  Lock putting up higher win percentages last year and this does not count.
                  It is a team game and you are sure that selling out the teams cap space and draft capital to get Watson will make the team great, but Watson has no part in the team he is on failing. Loosing is on everybody else than the QB, even though the QB is the most important player, he has no share in the team failure when he is called Deshaun Watson.

                  you know , I never even thought about that . Good post.

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                  • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post

                    So Lock does not get credit for beating Watson last year, but Watson gets credit for beating Mahomes.
                    Lock putting up higher win percentages last year and this does not count.
                    It is a team game and you are sure that selling out the teams cap space and draft capital to get Watson will make the team great, but Watson has no part in the team he is on failing. Loosing is on everybody else than the QB, even though the QB is the most important player, he has no share in the team failure when he is called Deshaun Watson.
                    Lock did outplay Watson in that one game, I didn’t say he didn’t. Lock isn’t a better QB than Watson though and win percentages don’t prove that because that’s a team stat not a QB stat. Besides you’re only looking at Watson from this past season and disregarding his 3 previous seasons in which he was never below .500 and led 8 4th quarter comebacks, 10 game winning drives, and only lost 5 games out of 41 by more than a score compared to Lock’s 4 out of 18. Not to mention the yardage, the TDs, his TD to INT ratio. Even if you look at this 4-12 season, they were 2 bad snaps and a WR fumbling at the 2 yard line from being 7-9. Throw in the 2 Titans games where the defense couldn’t stop them from tying and forcing OT and couldn’t stop them on the only drive in OT or the other game where Watson tied it up with 22 seconds left and the Titans managed to get in FG range in 18 seconds and this could have easily been a 9-7 team. That’s 5 games where the guys around him made a critical mistake to cost them the game in key situations.

                    If you take the W/L record out of it and break down every single pass, their footwork, their mechanics, their decision making, their presnap reads, their post snap reads, their ability to improvise, how quickly they process information, etc, it’s clear that Watson is a top 5 QB at the least. Judging Watson off this one season is like judging Randy Moss from his time in Oakland, you could still see the talent, the team around them just couldn’t maximize that talent. Don’t like the QB to WR comparison, then it’d be like judging Brees off his 3 consecutive losing seasons in New Orleans, the talent was still there, just the team around him wasn’t good enough to pull their weight.

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                    • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post

                      Lock did outplay Watson in that one game, I didn’t say he didn’t. Lock isn’t a better QB than Watson though and win percentages don’t prove that because that’s a team stat not a QB stat. Besides you’re only looking at Watson from this past season and disregarding his 3 previous seasons in which he was never below .500 and led 8 4th quarter comebacks, 10 game winning drives, and only lost 5 games out of 41 by more than a score compared to Lock’s 4 out of 18. Not to mention the yardage, the TDs, his TD to INT ratio. Even if you look at this 4-12 season, they were 2 bad snaps and a WR fumbling at the 2 yard line from being 7-9. Throw in the 2 Titans games where the defense couldn’t stop them from tying and forcing OT and couldn’t stop them on the only drive in OT or the other game where Watson tied it up with 22 seconds left and the Titans managed to get in FG range in 18 seconds and this could have easily been a 9-7 team. That’s 5 games where the guys around him made a critical mistake to cost them the game in key situations.

                      If you take the W/L record out of it and break down every single pass, their footwork, their mechanics, their decision making, their presnap reads, their post snap reads, their ability to improvise, how quickly they process information, etc, it’s clear that Watson is a top 5 QB at the least. Judging Watson off this one season is like judging Randy Moss from his time in Oakland, you could still see the talent, the team around them just couldn’t maximize that talent. Don’t like the QB to WR comparison, then it’d be like judging Brees off his 3 consecutive losing seasons in New Orleans, the talent was still there, just the team around him wasn’t good enough to pull their weight.
                      That guy is not capable of thinking like this. His posts have proven this. His extreme hyperbole and then dodging it when being called out also shows this conversation is beyond him. That is a very good post though. We done to you Beastly!
                      So far:
                      FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
                      1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. Biadazz Center, 3. OT

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                      • Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post

                        Lock did outplay Watson in that one game, I didn’t say he didn’t. Lock isn’t a better QB than Watson though and win percentages don’t prove that because that’s a team stat not a QB stat. Besides you’re only looking at Watson from this past season and disregarding his 3 previous seasons in which he was never below .500 and led 8 4th quarter comebacks, 10 game winning drives, and only lost 5 games out of 41 by more than a score compared to Lock’s 4 out of 18. Not to mention the yardage, the TDs, his TD to INT ratio. Even if you look at this 4-12 season, they were 2 bad snaps and a WR fumbling at the 2 yard line from being 7-9. Throw in the 2 Titans games where the defense couldn’t stop them from tying and forcing OT and couldn’t stop them on the only drive in OT or the other game where Watson tied it up with 22 seconds left and the Titans managed to get in FG range in 18 seconds and this could have easily been a 9-7 team. That’s 5 games where the guys around him made a critical mistake to cost them the game in key situations.

                        If you take the W/L record out of it and break down every single pass, their footwork, their mechanics, their decision making, their presnap reads, their post snap reads, their ability to improvise, how quickly they process information, etc, it’s clear that Watson is a top 5 QB at the least. Judging Watson off this one season is like judging Randy Moss from his time in Oakland, you could still see the talent, the team around them just couldn’t maximize that talent. Don’t like the QB to WR comparison, then it’d be like judging Brees off his 3 consecutive losing seasons in New Orleans, the talent was still there, just the team around him wasn’t good enough to pull their weight.
                        It’s very refreshing to see proper contextual evidence and relevant stats being used here. Don’t get too rational on them now, beast!
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                        • Originally posted by BroncoFanDK View Post

                          So Lock does not get credit for beating Watson last year, but Watson gets credit for beating Mahomes.
                          Lock putting up higher win percentages last year and this does not count.
                          It is a team game and you are sure that selling out the teams cap space and draft capital to get Watson will make the team great, but Watson has no part in the team he is on failing. Loosing is on everybody else than the QB, even though the QB is the most important player, he has no share in the team failure when he is called Deshaun Watson.
                          In a football game QBs don't play against each other, they play against the opposing defense. In the 2019 matchup between the Broncos and Texans, Drew Lock had a great game against Romeo Crennel's D while Deshaun Watson had an average game against Vic Fangio's D.
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                          • It's funny, Watson isn't even on the Denver Broncos, and probably will never be.

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                            • Originally posted by HDbroncos02 View Post

                              It’s very refreshing to see proper contextual evidence and relevant stats being used here. Don’t get too rational on them now, beast!
                              Some posts are rational...and some give me a rash.



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                              • Originally posted by underrated29 View Post

                                That guy is not capable of thinking like this. His posts have proven this. His extreme hyperbole and then dodging it when being called out also shows this conversation is beyond him. That is a very good post though. We done to you Beastly!
                                I keep telling yall that.....sadly he really think he making sense....like he finish his post feeling good about himself lmao....any if you don't know now you know.
                                Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."

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