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  • welderhead
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    Teddy Bridgewater is a football player. Lock would win the Ford Punt, Pass, and Kick. I'm pulling for Drew and cheering him on, but it takes very little to rattle him.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    If Lock completely struggles and can't move the ball and can't score points. I can see Bridgewater coming in, and running the offense efficiently and effectively. I'm not sure if he can make the Broncos into a winning football team, but I think he can move the chains and score some points and win some games.

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  • HDbroncos02
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    I get that Drew Lock clearly has more upside and he does. The team’s offensive potential is greater at Lock’s ceiling. But 2020 showed what it looks like now (until further improvement) or at his worst.

    Count me in as one of the people who were slightly underwhelmed when we traded for Bridgewater, especially since I had been a huge advocate for drafting Justin Fields all offseason.

    But here is the thing with Teddy and why a “dink-and-dunk”, conservative offensive style isn’t such a bad thing after all. How many times did offensive drives flame out really early in the first half of games, allowing the opposing team to score and beat down/tire out our defense? The first game against KC and the ATL game were classic examples of this. Imagine if we had a passer who could simply execute Shurmur’s plays and sustain possessions? For once, I would love the offense to move the sticks consistently and march into the redzone. Occasional big plays of 20+ yards are nice, but I don’t mind steady 5-10 yard gains either. I want our starting QB to take care of the football and make smart decisions. Just cutting down on turnovers alone would take our offense to the next level.

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post

    I was thinking maybe getting six or seven wins would be the next level?
    Nope LOL Next Level Going Down

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  • Capt. Jack
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    Originally posted by DENVERSB50CHAMP View Post

    Yea the next level of losing.
    I was thinking maybe getting six or seven wins would be the next level?

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  • DENVERSB50CHAMP
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    Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
    There was an article I was reading today saying, "Teddy Bridgewater can take the team to the next level".
    Yea the next level of losing.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    There was an article I was reading today saying, "Teddy Bridgewater can take the team to the next level".

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  • Capt. Jack
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    TB was a first round draft pick, Rookie of the Year, and in a Pro Bowl his first two seasons before he got hurt, and he's only 28 years old.

    (Not too shabby)



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  • HDbroncos02
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    Great breakdown by Tim Jenkins on Bridgewater in Denver here. I somehow missed it when it first came out.

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  • JvDub95
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    Originally posted by Kyousukeneko View Post

    OR a QB we get shows up as and proves he is an above average to good starter maybe even better.
    Yeah....or that

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  • Kyousukeneko
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    Originally posted by JvDub95 View Post

    It won't stop until they actually use one of these top 10 pics on a QB
    OR a QB we get shows up as and proves he is an above average to good starter maybe even better.

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  • JvDub95
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    Originally posted by Hadez View Post
    I was kind of hoping after the draft this "draft a qb in rd 1" argument would stop finding its way into every thread.
    It won't stop until they actually use one of these top 10 pics on a QB

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  • Hadez
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    I was kind of hoping after the draft this "draft a qb in rd 1" argument would stop finding its way into every thread.

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  • BroncoFanDK
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    Originally posted by sra84 View Post

    No my logic is not flawed. Look at the starting QBs today. Most are first round picks. And Brees (yes, I know he's retired, but his name is relevant because he's played until now) and Russell Wilson would have been first round picks if they were taller.

    How many 6 round pick QB's have had the kind of success as other higher drafted QB's in the Super Bowl era?

    AND the reference to Cutler was about how he's been the best amongst the QB's we've drafted. And do you honestly believe Tebow is a better QB than Cutler? He's a gimmick that was figured out and when he had to throw, he was worthless. Cutler got the Bears to the NFC championship game in 2010.

    You wanna keep banking on finding a franchise QB outside of the first round? Fine, I hope you enjoy the garbage we've seen year after year.

    And yes, Brady does skew your logic...big time.

    And let's not forget the luck/scandals Brady's championships have included. Spygate/Deflate gate/The Tuck Rule game/Falcons choking/Seahawks throwing on the goal line/ Vinatieri kicking game winners in the first two/Patriots defense holding the Rams to 3 points in Super Bowl 53.... he's had a lot of breaks go his way.

    So tell me, what's your answer for QB? And forget about Lock, the Broncos don't believe in him.... that's why Bridgewater is going to get half of the reps.
    If you want to make an argument that 6th round picks don't pan out like Tom Brady, then that holds true for first round draft picks as well - even #1 picks as well.
    Since 1999 Browns have drafted 5 QBs in the first round - How is that for an example over 22 years?

    First round picks have teams more invested and that is one of the reasons that they get more chances to show that they cannot play. Another aspect is that every QB taken at the top of the first round has few obvious flaws and the ones taken later have things like RW's height etc. If you care about winning the SB then it is about the team and not only the QB.

    If you don't draft #1 overall then it very much becomes a crap shoot, and it is more about scouting to find a Brett Favre/Drew Brees/Steve Young/Joe Montana type player outside the 1st round.

    On Tebow/Cutler - Yes Tebow was a vastly superiour player for the Broncos as evidenced in their impacts on the team, the team situation before, while and after they were the starting QB. No doubt that Cutler threw pretty passes, but he could not string victories together, and his first 2 seasons were full of things to be very concerned with. There is a HUGE difference between leading the then worst team in football on a winning spree and taking one of the best teams in football and turning them to loosers.

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  • lvbronx
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    Originally posted by sra84 View Post
    Look, if anyone wants to hinge their bets on finding a franchise QB outside of the first round, in today's NFL, with the way the college game is played, be my guest.

    Yeah, first round QB's bust... but the odds of hitting on one are much better in the first round.

    1st round QB's:

    Rodgers
    Mahomes
    Roethlisberger
    Herbert
    Burrow
    Allen
    Jackson
    Murray
    Watson
    Ryan
    ​​​​​Stafford
    Tannehill
    Wentz
    Winston
    Newton/J
    ones
    Darnold
    Mayfield
    Tua
    Z. Wilson
    D. Jones
    Lawrence
    Goff

    Non 1st round QB's:

    Brady (the extreme exception)
    Carr
    Lock
    Fitzpatrick
    Hurts
    Prescott
    R. Wilson ( height was why he wasn't drafted in the first round)
    Jimmy G. ( SF drafted a QB in the first round)
    Cousins
    Dalton (CHI drafted a QB in the first round)

    Again, better chance of finding a franchise QB in the first round.

    Case closed. I'm done.
    You may be done but the case is far from closed. While the QBs listed above are first round picks, I've bolded the QBs that are no longer playing for the team that drafted them in the first round. I put Rodgers and Watson in red because they may (or may not) be traded. Simply listing them as first round picks without mentioning many of them are now playing for different teams in incomplete at best.

    No one is denying that first round QBs have a higher chance of success. They are also more damaging than other positions when they bust.

    Bridgewater has a decent chance of starting so if he starts we have our first round QB starter...problem solved.

    I also don't accept that "starting" should be the qualification for success since just about every first round QB will be given the job at some point. Here's another list, this one is for Super Bowl starting QBs since 2000. QBs that were NOT drafted in the first round by the team they played for in the Super Bowl in bold.

    Trent Dilfer
    Kerry Collins


    Tom Brady
    Kurt Warner


    Brad Johnson
    Rich Gannon


    Tom Brady
    Jake Delhomme


    Tom Brady
    Donovan McNabb

    Ben Roethlisberger
    Matt Hasselbeck

    Peyton Manning
    Rex Grossman

    Eli Manning
    Tom Brady

    Ben Roethlisberger
    Kurt Warner

    Drew Brees
    Peyton Manning

    Aaron Rodgers
    Ben Roethlisberger

    Eli Manning
    Tom Brady

    Joe Flacco
    Colin Kaepernick

    Russell Wilson
    Peyton Manning

    Tom Brady
    Russell Wilson

    Peyton Manning

    Cam Newton

    Tom Brady
    Matt Ryan

    Nick Foles
    Tom Brady

    Tom Brady

    Jared Goff

    Patrick Mahomes
    Jimmy Garoppolo

    Tom Brady
    Patrick Mahomes

    If I can count correctly, this list has 16 starts by QBs drafted in the first round by the team they played for and 24 QB starts that were acquired in another way. Even if you believe Brady scews the numbers and he is taken completely out, it's still 50/50. With Brady it's only 40% first round picks by their team.



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