Teddy Bridgewater thread

[Capt. Jack]

TB was a first round draft pick, Rookie of the Year, and in a Pro Bowl his first two seasons before he got hurt, and he's only 28 years old.

(Not too shabby)

[HDbroncos02]

Great breakdown by Tim Jenkins on Bridgewater in Denver here. I somehow missed it when it first came out.

[JvDub95]

OR a QB we get shows up as and proves he is an above average to good starter maybe even better.

Yeah....or that

[Kyousukeneko]

It won't stop until they actually use one of these top 10 pics on a QB

OR a QB we get shows up as and proves he is an above average to good starter maybe even better.

[JvDub95]

I was kind of hoping after the draft this "draft a qb in rd 1" argument would stop finding its way into every thread.

It won't stop until they actually use one of these top 10 pics on a QB

[Hadez]

I was kind of hoping after the draft this "draft a qb in rd 1" argument would stop finding its way into every thread.

[BroncoFanDK]

No my logic is not flawed. Look at the starting QBs today. Most are first round picks. And Brees (yes, I know he's retired, but his name is relevant because he's played until now) and Russell Wilson would have been first round picks if they were taller.

How many 6 round pick QB's have had the kind of success as other higher drafted QB's in the Super Bowl era?

AND the reference to Cutler was about how he's been the best amongst the QB's we've drafted. And do you honestly believe Tebow is a better QB than Cutler? He's a gimmick that was figured out and when he had to throw, he was worthless. Cutler got the Bears to the NFC championship game in 2010.

You wanna keep banking on finding a franchise QB outside of the first round? Fine, I hope you enjoy the garbage we've seen year after year.

And yes, Brady does skew your logic...big time.

And let's not forget the luck/scandals Brady's championships have included. Spygate/Deflate gate/The Tuck Rule game/Falcons choking/Seahawks throwing on the goal line/ Vinatieri kicking game winners in the first two/Patriots defense holding the Rams to 3 points in Super Bowl 53.... he's had a lot of breaks go his way.

So tell me, what's your answer for QB? And forget about Lock, the Broncos don't believe in him.... that's why Bridgewater is going to get half of the reps.

If you want to make an argument that 6th round picks don't pan out like Tom Brady, then that holds true for first round draft picks as well - even #1 picks as well.
Since 1999 Browns have drafted 5 QBs in the first round - How is that for an example over 22 years?

First round picks have teams more invested and that is one of the reasons that they get more chances to show that they cannot play. Another aspect is that every QB taken at the top of the first round has few obvious flaws and the ones taken later have things like RW's height etc. If you care about winning the SB then it is about the team and not only the QB.

If you don't draft #1 overall then it very much becomes a crap shoot, and it is more about scouting to find a Brett Favre/Drew Brees/Steve Young/Joe Montana type player outside the 1st round.

On Tebow/Cutler - Yes Tebow was a vastly superiour player for the Broncos as evidenced in their impacts on the team, the team situation before, while and after they were the starting QB. No doubt that Cutler threw pretty passes, but he could not string victories together, and his first 2 seasons were full of things to be very concerned with. There is a HUGE difference between leading the then worst team in football on a winning spree and taking one of the best teams in football and turning them to loosers.

[lvbronx]

Look, if anyone wants to hinge their bets on finding a franchise QB outside of the first round, in today's NFL, with the way the college game is played, be my guest.

Yeah, first round QB's bust... but the odds of hitting on one are much better in the first round.

1st round QB's:

Rodgers
Mahomes
Roethlisberger
Herbert
Burrow
Allen
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Ryan
Stafford
Tannehill
Wentz
Winston
Newton/Jones
Darnold
Mayfield
Tua
Z. Wilson
D. Jones
Lawrence
Goff

Non 1st round QB's:

Brady (the extreme exception)
Carr
Lock
Fitzpatrick
Hurts
Prescott
R. Wilson ( height was why he wasn't drafted in the first round)
Jimmy G. ( SF drafted a QB in the first round)
Cousins
Dalton (CHI drafted a QB in the first round)

Again, better chance of finding a franchise QB in the first round.

Case closed. I'm done.

You may be done but the case is far from closed. While the QBs listed above are first round picks, I've bolded the QBs that are no longer playing for the team that drafted them in the first round. I put Rodgers and Watson in red because they may (or may not) be traded. Simply listing them as first round picks without mentioning many of them are now playing for different teams in incomplete at best.

No one is denying that first round QBs have a higher chance of success. They are also more damaging than other positions when they bust.

Bridgewater has a decent chance of starting so if he starts we have our first round QB starter...problem solved.

I also don't accept that "starting" should be the qualification for success since just about every first round QB will be given the job at some point. Here's another list, this one is for Super Bowl starting QBs since 2000. QBs that were NOT drafted in the first round by the team they played for in the Super Bowl in bold.

Trent Dilfer
Kerry Collins

Tom Brady
Kurt Warner

Brad Johnson
Rich Gannon

Tom Brady
Jake Delhomme

Tom Brady
Donovan McNabb

Ben Roethlisberger
Matt Hasselbeck

Peyton Manning
Rex Grossman

Eli Manning
Tom Brady

Ben Roethlisberger
Kurt Warner

Drew Brees
Peyton Manning

Aaron Rodgers
Ben Roethlisberger

Eli Manning
Tom Brady

Joe Flacco
Colin Kaepernick

Russell Wilson
Peyton Manning

Tom Brady
Russell Wilson

Peyton Manning
Cam Newton

Tom Brady
Matt Ryan

Nick Foles
Tom Brady

Tom Brady
Jared Goff

Patrick Mahomes
Jimmy Garoppolo

Tom Brady
Patrick Mahomes

If I can count correctly, this list has 16 starts by QBs drafted in the first round by the team they played for and 24 QB starts that were acquired in another way. Even if you believe Brady scews the numbers and he is taken completely out, it's still 50/50. With Brady it's only 40% first round picks by their team.

[Kyousukeneko]

There are reports that the Saints tried to to trade up to get Mac Jones.

Winston is closer to Mac Jones than Taysom Hill is.

People felt Winston should start last year when Brees got injuried and Hill still got the start. to pencil in Winston as the starter seems to just be trying to push a narrative that we need to draft a QB in the first round, but really like i think there's a chance either could start i would still have Hill the favorite cause Peyton seemed to him Last year

[broncolee]

Why cause he is in a legal battle and all signs point to him not starting.

I could care less what Analysts say. It is what Peyton wants. And he seems to have a man crush on Taysom Hill. Plus he started Hill when he had the Choice last year.

There are reports that the Saints tried to to trade up to get Mac Jones.

Winston is closer to Mac Jones than Taysom Hill is.

[Capt. Jack]

I think we are kinda lucky to have Teddy Bridgewater.
He is a talented QB and even a better person.

[Kyousukeneko]

There are a few analysts who believe Winston will start. Watson belongs on the list for now.

The bottom line is, the most likely round in which a franchise quarterback will be found is the first round.

Why cause he is in a legal battle and all signs point to him not starting.

I could care less what Analysts say. It is what Peyton wants. And he seems to have a man crush on Taysom Hill. Plus he started Hill when he had the Choice last year. Analysts thought that Winston should have started when Brees went down last year, but Hill still got the starts.

[MHSalute]

Nick Foles has as many or more SB wins than everyone on this list except Big Ben.

Rodgers
Mahomes
Roethlisberger
Herbert
Burrow
Allen
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Ryan
Stafford
Tannehill
Wentz
Winston
Newton/Jones
Darnold
Mayfield
Tua
Z. Wilson
D. Jones
Lawrence
Goff

[broncolee]

are you just listing starting QBs. Also Watson on that list is kinda Sketchy, from the looks of it he probably wont be starting next season in the nfl. so you could put Taylor in which would be aNon ifrst round QB. Also i am not convinced Winston is the starting for NO, Why would Payton start Hill when Brees was injuried last year, but make Windston his starting QB. right now i figure Hill would be higher then DC then Winston like it was last season.

Also just cause some one is starting does not mean they are a Franchise QB.

There are a few analysts who believe Winston will start. Watson belongs on the list for now.

The bottom line is, the most likely round in which a franchise quarterback will be found is the first round.

[Kyousukeneko]

Look, if anyone wants to hinge their bets on finding a franchise QB outside of the first round, in today's NFL, with the way the college game is played, be my guest.

Yeah, first round QB's bust... but the odds of hitting on one are much better in the first round.

1st round QB's:

Rodgers
Mahomes
Roethlisberger
Herbert
Burrow
Allen
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Ryan
Stafford
Tannehill
Wentz
Winston
Newton/Jones
Darnold
Mayfield
Tua
Z. Wilson
D. Jones
Lawrence
Goff

Non 1st round QB's:

Brady (the extreme exception)
Carr
Lock
Fitzpatrick
Hurts
Prescott
R. Wilson ( height was why he wasn't drafted in the first round)
Jimmy G. ( SF drafted a QB in the first round)
Cousins
Dalton (CHI drafted a QB in the first round)

Again, better chance of finding a franchise QB in the first round.

Case closed. I'm done.

are you just listing starting QBs. Also Watson on that list is kinda Sketchy, from the looks of it he probably wont be starting next season in the nfl. so you could put Taylor in which would be aNon ifrst round QB. Also i am not convinced Winston is the starting for NO, Why would Payton start Hill when Brees was injuried last year, but make Windston his starting QB. right now i figure Hill would be higher then DC then Winston like it was last season.

Also just cause some one is starting does not mean they are a Franchise QB.