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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
When looking at a quarterback early in his career, changing coordinators from the first to second year, how he played under Scangarello vs Shurmur is absolutely relevant.
Lock was 4-1 his rookie season and 4-9 last year. Having an 8-10 record isn’t bad considering changing offensive coordinators, no pre-season after changing coordinators, #1 receiver missing 15 games, 25th rate O-line, rookie Center rated worst in the league (Cushenberry), Right Tackle rated near worst (Wilkinson) and Jeudy’s rough rookie season.
Lock put some good film out there with his play the last two starts. I was looking for improvement over 2020 with his footwork, decision making and overall play. In both games he showed tangible progress and didn’t turn the ball over. If he continues improving the odds are higher he will have a career in the league. Only time will tell.
that's a total of 33 TO to 28 total tds...with zero full season played....just bc he played two games with no T.O. doesn't mean he is fixed. We still loss both games.
with a passing avg of 199 passing and .5 td game. Will not cut it.Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
Some people said Lock would have multiple turnovers before the Raiders game and it’s weird we haven’t heard about those predictions 🤔Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
Those stats help bc it wasn't a full reason...when he had a full season what was his stats? Don't cherry pick the first season. You leave out that he is 0-2 this year, career 59% completion. With 25 tds and 20 ints along with 13 fumbles.
that's a total of 33 TO to 28 total tds...with zero full season played....just bc he played two games with no T.O. doesn't mean he is fixed. We still loss both games.
with a passing avg of 199 passing and .5 td game. Will not cut it.
Now don’t say Lock should have played better because he had experience from his rookie season - you said his 4-1 record should not be talked about.
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
Since the new rule is evaluating the first full season to judge a QB, Kyler Murray’s record was 5-10-1 with 12 INTs, just 3 fewer than Lock under Shurmur.
Now don’t say Lock should have played better because he had experience from his rookie season - yousaid his 4-1 record should not be talked about.
Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
Who still talks about what a rookie did 3 years ago.What was Lock record last year? What is it this year as a starter 0-2....But wait for it here it comes its all "vic and Shurmur fault " here comes the deflect people watch and see.Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
You keep doing this comparing lock vs players that is way better than Lock. Idc if kyler went 0-16 his rookie he is better than Lock period. No one would take lock over kyler if they were starting a franchise. Again we are judging him of 3 years not just one. When you put lock in the same sentence as kyler makes everything you say after that irrelevant.
Does the 4-1 record count since the rule is back to using 3 years?
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
You keep doing this comparing lock vs players that is way better than Lock. Idc if kyler went 0-16 his rookie he is better than Lock period. No one would take lock over kyler if they were starting a franchise. Again we are judging him of 3 years not just one. When you put lock in the same sentence as kyler makes everything you say after that irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Locutus View Post
But with every post you expose your bias. You want to have it both ways.the fact is you are refusing to judge Lock on 3 years. Everyone is judging him on 3 years except you cause you refuse to acknowledge his first year.
Someone explain the rules here.
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
The rule was that we don’t talk about Lock’s season 3 years ago, then changed to evaluating a full season and now it’s back to judging 3 years.
Does the 4-1 record count since the rule is back to using 3 years?Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Locutus View Post
But with every post you expose your bias. You want to have it both ways.the fact is you are refusing to judge Lock on 3 years. Everyone is judging him on 3 years except you cause you refuse to acknowledge his first year.Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Ear2dastreets View Post
Bc those are the ONLY stats you are use. Judging Hanover three year.. you never bring up his last year stats ot this year. You conveniently the 4 or 5 games he played this year and all last year stats. You wanna know why you do that bc those stats are horrible. And 4-1 is the only you can hang your hat on.
As far as this year with Lock’s two full games played his completion rate was 68.1% and 72.0%, 398 yards, 1 TD and no turnovers. Solid considering those were his first two starts this season, both road games.
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post
Within the last few posts I noted Murray had 12 interceptions in their first full season, just 3 fewer than Lock.
As far as this year with Lock’s two full games played his completion rate was 68.1% and 72.0%, 398 yards, 1 TD and no turnovers. Solid considering those were his first two starts this season, both road games.
Now looking at your next statement
Ok I'm done.. you will always cherry pick stats to try to prove ur point.. add in the other games he came in to play.. with the TO ints and fumbles. Hell even in his two full games avg under 200 yards passing..... .05 tds, avg 13 pts a game....and resulted in 0-2 record....keep fishing.Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View PostThe odds of Lock remaining in Denver next season are higher than Shumur staying.Until we get a TRUE not name "Lock" qb we will miss the playoffs and be average at best! I'm E2DS and I approve this message! "AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, NOW YA KNOW."
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Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post
Could happen????
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