Thank goodness we gave up on Lock after 1.5 seasons

[Fantaztic7]

Bridgewater's CPOE and EPA stats for 2021 are near the top of the league (#2 for CPOE, 7th for EPA/play), and it's not due to a dink-and-dunk style, as he ranks 13th in air yards at 8.2. (Jared Goff is at the bottom at 6.3, by way of comparison.) He's still #7 in CPOE if filtered for garbage time (< 10% win probability), and 12th in EPA/play.

Lock's 2020 stats: 38th in CPOE, 32nd in EPA/play. But his air yards ranked #2 in the league at 9.0, so there's "talent," if that's how such a thing is to be measured.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/
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Bridgewater is near the top in sacks and the offense is 23rd in 3rd down conversions.

[CasualFan]

Bridgewater is near the top in sacks and the offense is 23rd in 3rd down conversions.

Yes, the offensive line DVOA ranks #27 in pass protection because of all the injuries:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...sive-line/2021

Or are you saying it's all Bridgewater's fault? Was it all Elway's fault that he got sacked so much?

Football Outsiders ranks Bridgewater #11 in the league in DYAR and #12 in DVOA, which are statistics designed to adjust not just for (among other things) the rate of 3rd down conversions, but their situational difficulty:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2021

If quarterback A has a line that protects him and can run block, so after two running plays that gain 4.5 yards each he's got to convert 3rd-and-1, and quarterback B has a line that does not protect him or can't run block, so the running game only gets 2 yards on first down, allows a sack for -7 yards on second down, and so he has to convert a 3rd-and-15, then obviously quarterback B will tend to have the lower 3rd down conversion rate. Which is why statisticians have developed stats like DYAR, DVOA, CPOE and EPA to adjust for the relative difficulty of the two tasks.

[Fantaztic7]

Yes, the offensive line DVOA ranks #27 in pass protection because of all the injuries:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...sive-line/2021

Or are you saying it's all Bridgewater's fault? Was it all Elway's fault that he got sacked so much?

Football Outsiders ranks Bridgewater #11 in the league in DYAR and #12 in DVOA, which are statistics designed to adjust not just for (among other things) the rate of 3rd down conversions, but their situational difficulty:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2021

If quarterback A has a line that protects him and can run block, so after two running plays that gain 4.5 yards each he's got to convert 3rd-and-1, and quarterback B has a line that does not protect him or can't run block, so the running game only gets 2 yards on first down, allows a sack for -7 yards on second down, and so he has to convert a 3rd-and-15, then obviously quarterback B will tend to have the lower 3rd down conversion rate. Which is why statisticians have developed stats like DYAR, DVOA, CPOE and EPA to adjust for the relative difficulty of the two tasks.

With Teddy’s great stats no wonder the offense is a scoring Juggernaut!

[BroncoBreeder]

Why is it when Teddy throws an interception it's on the coach but when Lock throws an interception it's on him?

[Hadez]

Why is it when Teddy throws an interception it's on the coach but when Lock throws an interception it's on him?

Not a fan of Teddy or the offensive coaching but those issues against the Chargers were on Lock. I do not know what he is doing with his time on the bench but it does not appear he is improving as a QB.

[LordTrychon]

Bridgewater's CPOE and EPA stats for 2021 are near the top of the league (#2 for CPOE, 7th for EPA/play), and it's not due to a dink-and-dunk style, as he ranks 13th in air yards at 8.2. (Jared Goff is at the bottom at 6.3, by way of comparison.) He's still #7 in CPOE if filtered for garbage time (< 10% win probability), and 12th in EPA/play.

Lock's 2020 stats: 38th in CPOE, 32nd in EPA/play. But his air yards ranked #2 in the league at 9.0, so there's "talent," if that's how such a thing is to be measured.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/
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[Ear2dastreets]

I told yall about lock... i was in that "Drew Lock" thread saying for years what he was and will be and that we were wasting time.

[lvbronx]

I told yall about lock... i was in that "Drew Lock" thread saying for years what he was and will be and that we were wasting time.

You also told us the Bronco had no chance to beat the Chargers. And just for the record, I'm telling you now the Bears are wasting their time with Justin "Out in Right" Fields.

[BroncoBreeder]

Bridgewater's CPOE and EPA stats for 2021 are near the top of the league (#2 for CPOE, 7th for EPA/play), and it's not due to a dink-and-dunk style, as he ranks 13th in air yards at 8.2. (Jared Goff is at the bottom at 6.3, by way of comparison.) He's still #7 in CPOE if filtered for garbage time (< 10% win probability), and 12th in EPA/play.

Lock's 2020 stats: 38th in CPOE, 32nd in EPA/play. But his air yards ranked #2 in the league at 9.0, so there's "talent," if that's how such a thing is to be measured.

https://rbsdm.com/stats/stats/
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Wow.....Teddy is better than Tom Brady, Mac Jones, and Josh Allen.

[famicommander]

With Teddy’s great stats no wonder the offense is a scoring Juggernaut!

The stats are saying that, accounting for the rest of the variables that are beyond Teddy's control (blocking, skill position guys getting open, drops, injuries, play calling, run support, penalties, quality of opposition, etc) he's playing very well.

The stats are suggesting that Teddy's efficient play is elevating our offense from potentially catastrophically horrible to merely mediocre. The stats on those charts are relative to expectation; ie, how the average player would be expected to perform in the same context.

The charts are as much an indictment of the rest of our offense as they are an endorsement of Bridgewater.

[Capt. Jack]

I have given up my seat on the Drew Lock Bandwagon. He has had a few good opportunities to prove his worth, and hasn't gotten the job done. He probably dreams at night about Being the Chiefs back up QB and carrying PM's jock around for him.

[GMTD]

I have given up my seat on the Drew Lock Bandwagon. He has had a few good opportunities to prove his worth, and hasn't gotten the job done. He probably dreams at night about Being the Chiefs back up QB and carrying PM's jock around for him.

Feels so bad to kick a man when he's down but Lock just doesn't learn. I can only think he was trying to prove (either to the Broncos, or more likely to his next team) that he has something special to offer. It didn't work.

At least it made some reconsider their view of Teddy. He may not ever be great but he's solid, and he doesn't give the ball to the other team!

[samparnell]

Lock will be cut from any team that has the stupidity to sign him, before next season starts. Lock will end up in the dustbin of NFL history, alongside Lynch and Osweiler and Tebow and Penrose, ad infinitum..... ....

... Jacky Lee, Mickey Slaughter, John McCormick, Max Choboian, Scott Glacken, Steve Tensi, Pete Liske, Alan Pastrana, Steve Ramsey, Don Horn, ...

[Locutus]

Feels so bad to kick a man when he's down but Lock just doesn't learn. I can only think he was trying to prove (either to the Broncos, or more likely to his next team) that he has something special to offer. It didn't work.

At least it made some reconsider their view of Teddy. He may not ever be great but he's solid, and he doesn't give the ball to the other team!

Teddy still sucks, solidly sucks.

[Gsam]

Teddy still sucks, solidly sucks.

^^ This ^^