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  • #91
    Originally posted by GMTD View Post

    That was me. It was a general observation about how
    in the NFL in-contract players can simply be traded away regardless of whether they do want to go, unlike in many other sports where the player can decide to stay; or at least only go elsewhere if they agree with the trade.

    I'm not saying that if Von were to be traded that he would have opposed a move to join Aaron Donald in Los Angeles, merely that he quite clearly wanted to stay, but couldn't do so.

    I agree that on a team to team level it made sense and seems a fair deal.
    The reason i think von had a say is because they were talking. It did not sound like von was mad or disappointed...sad yes which makes me think that everything between them was well done and without any malice
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    • #92
      Originally posted by GMTD View Post
      He's what I don't understand about the NFL. Subject to a contractual term to the contrary, a player under contract has no say in where or how they are traded.

      Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) Tweeted: Rams and Broncos worked last week on the trade, and kept it quiet—with Denver GM George Paton telling Von Miller in person about it, and updating him on everything along the way. Vic Fangio, John Elway, and Joe Ellis also met with Miller in person. Von = Hugely important Bronco. https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/stat...970417155?s=20

      So they kept Von informed but didn't give him a say.
      I’m guessing he’s not too bummed about going to LA, playing in a new swanky stadium and competing for a ring.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by broncolee View Post

        Projections aren’t facts.

        Apparently Von only had half a sack during the four game losing streak.

        I think it’s obvious that many have undervalued Von, but I think it’s also obvious that some overvalue Von.
        Facts are, given the pace he was on, he was looking ok compared to the season stats he had, when he was the SB king. The point wasn't that he was playing pro bowl football this year, but that he was more relevant than the poster gave credit to. And if he's so over the hill, why did The Rams go after him? You know why, because they know what he can do, and especially what he can do with a really good defensive unit around him. You know, more like in 2015. Not like this year, with the injuries.

        Do you know who led The NFL in sacks in 2015? The Broncos....with 52!!! Now if Von had 11, does that not say something about the D around him back then?

        Apples to oranges in one sense, but oranges to apples in another.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by CanDB View Post

          Facts are, given the pace he was on, he was looking ok compared to the season stats he had, when he was the SB king. The point wasn't that he was playing pro bowl football this year, but that he was more relevant than the poster gave credit to. And if he's so over the hill, why did The Rams go after him? You know why, because they know what he can do, and especially what he can do with a really good defensive unit around him. You know, more like in 2015. Not like this year, with the injuries.

          Do you know who led The NFL in sacks in 2015? The Broncos....with 52!!! Now if Von had 11, does that not say something about the D around him back then?

          Apples to oranges in one sense, but oranges to apples in another.
          Exactly right.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by CanDB View Post

            Facts are, given the pace he was on, he was looking ok compared to the season stats he had, when he was the SB king. The point wasn't that he was playing pro bowl football this year, but that he was more relevant than the poster gave credit to. And if he's so over the hill, why did The Rams go after him? You know why, because they know what he can do, and especially what he can do with a really good defensive unit around him. You know, more like in 2015. Not like this year, with the injuries.

            Do you know who led The NFL in sacks in 2015? The Broncos....with 52!!! Now if Von had 11, does that not say something about the D around him back then?

            Apples to oranges in one sense, but oranges to apples in another.
            According to reports Von was 5th in QB pressures in the NFL this year before he missed last week.

            Some only look at sacks but being an effective defender in the NFL is about more than just sacks. Even the past years when Von was playing and people were complaining he was not getting sacks multiple people broke down film and showed even when he was not getting sacks he was opening the door for other players to make plays with his pressures.

            There is a reason we got a 2nd and 3rd for Von. His age and recent injuries brought it down to a 2nd and 3rd...his play on the field has been solid.

            It will be very interesting to see how much he gets paid in the off season. I think it will be more the JJ Watt got. Unless Von decides to take a deal to play with a contender.
            Last edited by Hadez; 11-02-2021, 04:31 AM.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by RocketArm006 View Post

              I’m guessing he’s not too bummed about going to LA, playing in a new swanky stadium and competing for a ring.
              I do not know if he got a say like the poster said you qouted but if he had a say the Rams would have been on his list I would think. He gets to play with Donald on the front and Ramsey is still a play maker in the back. He definitely will not have to worry about the offense holding up their end for the first time since 2014. LA is going to enjoy his personality.
              Let's Ride!

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Hadez View Post

                According to reports Von was 5th in QB pressures in the NFL this year before he missed last week.

                Some only look at sacks but being an effective defender in the NFL is about more than just sacks. Even the past years when Von was playing and people were complaining he was not getting sacks multiple people broke down film and showed even when he was not getting sacks he was opening the door for other players to make plays with his pressures.

                There is a reason we got a 2nd and 3rd for Von. His age and recent injuries brought it down to a 2nd and 3rd...his play on the field has been solid.

                It will be very interesting to see how much he gets paid in the off season. I think it will be more the JJ Watt got. Unless Von decides to take a deal to play with a contender.
                Yeah. I only grabbed a couple of stats to show that Miller was no slouch, and with a lesser talented team around him than in 2015. The Rams have positioned themselves to win it all this year, which was clearly demonstrated by their trade for Stafford. They are looking for the right pieces, and I suspect they are ok with overpaying a wee bit for the players they want. It makes sense to me. You don't have to over-negotiate if you get the player(s) you have selected, though I am sure they did not overpay much if at all. They have a plan, and so far it is working.

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                • #98
                  I've given it a day I just can not come to terms with this. I will be rooting for Von in LA but I can't get over it just can't. Other than Elway he is my Favorite Bronco of all time.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by nickmeyer View Post
                    I've given it a day I just can not come to terms with this. I will be rooting for Von in LA but I can't get over it just can't. Other than Elway he is my Favorite Bronco of all time.
                    It's all rigged anyway. Don't let it get you down too much.
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                    • Originally posted by Hadez View Post

                      I do not know if he got a say like the poster said you qouted but if he had a say the Rams would have been on his list I would think. He gets to play with Donald on the front and Ramsey is still a play maker in the back. He definitely will not have to worry about the offense holding up their end for the first time since 2014. LA is going to enjoy his personality.
                      Von Miller will suit the city of LA, for sure. He definitely has the swagger and fashion taste for tinsel town.
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                      • 3 years too late

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                        • Originally posted by BroncoJef View Post
                          3 years too late
                          The only thing that is 3 years to late is the drafting of Bradley Chubb instead of Josh Allen.
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                          • Drafting Chubb is the reason Von is no longer here. Just my opinion for sure and alot of variable at play that could make my statement incorrect. But based on what we know I believe that to be true.
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                            • Originally posted by RocketArm006 View Post

                              I’m guessing he’s not too bummed about going to LA, playing in a new swanky stadium and competing for a ring.
                              I would be very happy if I were him.

                              Von is a great player, but it's time for him to move on to greener pastures.

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                              • Originally posted by CanDB View Post

                                Yeah. I only grabbed a couple of stats to show that Miller was no slouch, and with a lesser talented team around him than in 2015. The Rams have positioned themselves to win it all this year, which was clearly demonstrated by their trade for Stafford. They are looking for the right pieces, and I suspect they are ok with overpaying a wee bit for the players they want. It makes sense to me. You don't have to over-negotiate if you get the player(s) you have selected, though I am sure they did not overpay much if at all. They have a plan, and so far it is working.
                                I live in LA so I get a lot of news on the Rams without even trying. The amount of strategy and detail that goes into the football team is crazy. Wish they would spend a little more time on the stadium food but as long as they winning people will say it is all good.

                                Can you imagine the posters here if Elway/Paton did to the Broncos draft picks what the Rams have done to theirs? Even at 1 loss there would be many posters just waiting for the moment to drop the fire hammer.
                                Let's Ride!

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