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  • BiscuitBronco
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    Originally posted by Deandc View Post

    Also remember, The offense is going against the Home offense for Denver every practice. A defense that was amongst the best in the league leas year Most teams don't have that.
    Very true, but how hard do they go in practice?

    In the preseason games most of the guys are playing for depth or even a roster spot so are playing hard.

    I guess we will see if this approach works come early regular season action

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  • Deandc
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Seems like not playing the starting units during preseason games is common practice by a number of NFL coaching staffs, not just Denver. Using preseason games to evaluate players trying to make the roster and PS seems a good use of those. It is especially useful for STs, since practicing those full speed isn't done much, if at all. That means the starting units focus on practice to complete full installation of the playbook on their side of the ball. Without seeing them on the field during preseason games, we just use our imagination plus the reports that came out of practicing against the Cowboys that one time. The season opener will be a brand new experience. Exciting!
    Also remember, The offense is going against the 1st team Defense for Denver every practice. A defense that was amongst the best in the league leas year Most teams don't have that.
    Last edited by Deandc; 08-24-2022, 02:39 PM.

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  • Deandc
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    Originally posted by Spice 1 View Post

    My guess is Geno starts. Reason is Geno will probably adhere to and operate more efficiently within the confines of what Pete Carrol wants to do, which is run the ball and try to play defense. Seattle started mixing things up in their running game last year by incorporating things like split zone, and they were one of the best running teams in the league. In a sense, Geno is like the Teddy to Lock this year. If or when they realize that's no good, they'll turn to a more aggressive passing game with Lock. If Carrol and their offensive staff thinks they can trust Lock to be efficient, they could name him the starter. If he plays like he did in the 1st pre-season game, they might. Either way, based on how they finished last season, Seattle's running game should be a challenge regardless of QB or what RBs they have at their disposal. Good news there is the one team they didn't really run the ball great against was the LA Rams (Evero). EDIT: Wide front for the wide zone. Evero knows how to defend it.

    As far as Wilson goes, I'm not worried. He's been in the league 10 years. beast said some things about cohesion on the offensive line, and I don't disagree with that though. Risk vs reward when it comes to our OLine depth makes that a lot easier to accept. It might be more important to avoid injury to our starters.
    Actually, Seatle was 20th in rushing which is not good. In fact, they did not start doing well running until Wilson got back, and even then only 4 games. All against some not-great run defenses

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by BiscuitBronco View Post

    This is a relatively new trend, is it not?
    Not sure, but it has happened along with the reduction of four to three preseason games and the addition of a seventeenth regular season game which started last year.

    Training camp rosters are organized into first, second and third team O & D. When there were four preseason games, it was common for the starters to play one series of downs in the first two, and about a half in the third with the fourth game given over entirely to second/third team guys trying to make the roster.

    Back in the four preseason/sixteen regular season format, there was a week between the last preseason game and the regular season opener. Now with 3/17, there is two weeks.

    If coaches think they can accomplish enough in practice without playing starters in the preseason, it's probably much less risky. Denver had some starters/second team guys play so far and look what happened.

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  • BiscuitBronco
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Seems like not playing the starting units during preseason games is common practice by a number of NFL coaching staffs, not just Denver. Using preseason games to evaluate players trying to make the roster and PS seems a good use of those. It is especially useful for STs, since practicing those full speed isn't done much, if at all. That means the starting units focus on practice to complete full installation of the playbook on their side of the ball. Without seeing them on the field during preseason games, we just use our imagination plus the reports that came out of practicing against the Cowboys that one time. The season opener will be a brand new experience. Exciting!
    This is a relatively new trend, is it not?

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  • samparnell
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    Seems like not playing the starting units during preseason games is common practice by a number of NFL coaching staffs, not just Denver. Using preseason games to evaluate players trying to make the roster and PS seems a good use of those. It is especially useful for STs, since practicing those full speed isn't done much, if at all. That means the starting units focus on practice to complete full installation of the playbook on their side of the ball. Without seeing them on the field during preseason games, we just use our imagination plus the reports that came out of practicing against the Cowboys that one time. The season opener will be a brand new experience. Exciting!

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  • Spice 1
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    Doesn’t matter who starts for Seattle.

    If Wilson isn’t going to play in the pre season, he better prove it’s the right decision by coming out in dominant fashion against a team that’s expected to regress.
    My guess is Geno starts. Reason is Geno will probably adhere to and operate more efficiently within the confines of what Pete Carrol wants to do, which is run the ball and try to play defense. Seattle started mixing things up in their running game last year by incorporating things like split zone, and they were one of the best running teams in the league. In a sense, Geno is like the Teddy to Lock this year. If or when they realize that's no good, they'll turn to a more aggressive passing game with Lock. If Carrol and their offensive staff thinks they can trust Lock to be efficient, they could name him the starter. If he plays like he did in the 1st pre-season game, they might. Either way, based on how they finished last season, Seattle's running game should be a challenge regardless of QB or what RBs they have at their disposal. Good news there is the one team they didn't really run the ball great against was the LA Rams (Evero). EDIT: Wide front for the wide zone. Evero knows how to defend it.

    As far as Wilson goes, I'm not worried. He's been in the league 10 years. beast said some things about cohesion on the offensive line, and I don't disagree with that though. Risk vs reward when it comes to our OLine depth makes that a lot easier to accept. It might be more important to avoid injury to our starters.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    Originally posted by Deandc View Post

    He played already against Dallas. Why take another chance for him to get hurt. Haven't we lost enough to pre season injuries. He is not yhebonl QB not playing in much preseason.
    I got ya, I missed that

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  • broncolee
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    Originally posted by GMTD View Post

    Well there's always the chance Lock doesn't even make it to the start line in which case it will be Wilson v Geno Smith.
    Doesn’t matter who starts for Seattle.

    If Wilson isn’t going to play in the pre season, he better prove it’s the right decision by coming out in dominant fashion against a team that’s expected to regress.

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  • Deandc
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    starting QBs who haven't played in the preseason:
    Jacoby Brissett
    Lamar Jackson
    Joe Burrow*

    Ryan Tannehill

    Derek Carr
    Justin Herbert
    Russell Wilson

    Dak Prescott

    Aaron Rodgers
    Kirk Cousins*

    Tom Brady
    Jameis Winston*

    Matthew Stafford*
    Kyler Murray

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  • Deandc
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    Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post

    I guess he doesn't need any preseason snaps, he'll be able to beat Drew Lock and Seattle easily.
    He played already against Dallas. Why take another chance for him to get hurt? Haven't we lost enough to pre-season injuries? He is not only QB not playing in much preseason.
    Last edited by Deandc; 08-24-2022, 02:41 PM.

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  • brianmcfarlane
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    Originally posted by Capt. Jack View Post

    I guess he doesn't need any preseason snaps, he'll be able to beat Drew Lock and Seattle easily.
    Even though it is a preseason game, the next game up is the Vikings then it will be time for the players to focus on Seattle. Can't count any game in the NFL as "easy", especially on the road in Seattle.
    I like the optimism, but it is almost always a mistake to underestimate your opponent.

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  • Deandc
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    That's what's going on.
    Long after the coaches go inside, Montrell Washington, other Broncos pass-catchers and Russell Wilson keep working on the little things. "Russ is big on details," Washington said.

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  • Capt. Jack
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    Originally posted by GMTD View Post

    Well there's always the chance Lock doesn't even make it to the start line in which case it will be Wilson v Geno Smith.
    No matter who starts, It's pretty much a must win game for the Broncos and Russell Wilson.

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  • GMTD
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post

    That better be what happens.
    Well there's always the chance Lock doesn't even make it to the start line in which case it will be Wilson v Geno Smith.

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