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  • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post

    Manning was 2-4 in the playoffs in his last 6 playoff games before coming to Denver, did you not want him either?
    Denver gave away ZERO picks/players to get Manning - huge difference.

    Using a consistent comparable of 5 appearances in the playoffs before signing with Denver:

    Manning 6-4
    Wilson 3-5

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    • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
      Matt Stafford was 0-3 in the postseason before last year, how did that work out again?

      We have not made the playoffs in 6 seasons. You cannot win a Superbowl if you dont make the playoffs.
      He has made playoffs 80% of his career.
      He is 9-7 all time in the playoffs, with a SB title and 2 conference championships.

      Wilson gives us the best chance to win since Manning was here period!

      Comparing the Detroit Lions to the Seahawks.

      Ahoy!

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      • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

        Comparing the Detroit Lions to the Seahawks.

        Ahoy!
        Matt Stafford never won a playoff game and then went to the Rams won 4 in a row and a Superbowl. That completely destroys your argument of Wilson's playoff record.
        Does that mean Wilson will do the same? Of course not but it does make the case that a QB who hasnt won can turn things around in the right situation.
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        • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

          Denver gave away ZERO picks/players to get Manning - huge difference.

          Using a consistent comparable of 5 appearances in the playoffs before signing with Denver:

          Manning 6-4
          Wilson 3-5
          Manning was 2-4 in his last 6 games and was cut by the Colts because he had just missed an entire season due to 4 neck surgeries. Denver and 8-8 team brought him in and turned things around.

          That is what a franchise QB like Wilson brings.

          I believe Wilson will have a bigger impact this season than T Charles Cross and DE Boye Mafe.
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          • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
            Matt Stafford never won a playoff game and then went to the Rams won 4 in a row and a Superbowl. That completely destroys your argument of Wilson's playoff record.
            Does that mean Wilson will do the same? Of course not but it does make the case that a QB who hasnt won can turn things around in the right situation.
            “Wilson’s last 5 playoff losses didn’t happen”

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            • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

              “Wilson’s last 5 playoff losses didn’t happen”
              Staffords only 3 games all losses didnt happen?

              If Stafford can turn it around so can Wilson.

              80% of his seasons he has taken his team to the playoffs. Seattle also had never won a Superbowl until he arrived.
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              • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                Manning was 2-4 in his last 6 games and was cut by the Colts because he had just missed an entire season due to 4 neck surgeries. Denver and 8-8 team brought him in and turned things around.

                That is what a franchise QB like Wilson brings.

                I believe Wilson will have a bigger impact this season than T Charles Cross and DE Boye Mafe.
                5 last playoff appearances Manning was 6-4 before signing with the Broncos with NO draft picks/players traded.

                5 last playoff appearances Wilson was 3-5 before singing with the Broncos with a boatload of draft picks/players.

                If things didn’t work out with Manning the Broncos had their draft picks. If Wilson doesn’t deliver a SB championship as Manning did, the Broncos will have lost a significant amount of draft picks for a young franchise quarterback and multiple high round picks.

                Wilson has to appear in a minimum of two Super Bowls and win one of them in the next four years. If not he’s a failure compared to Manning.

                Now that you put Manning in the conversation be prepared to have Wilson meet or exceed his results:

                2012 AFC West Title
                2013 AFC West Champion and AFC Champion
                2014 AFC West Title
                2015 AFC West Title, AFC Champion and Super Bowl Champion





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                • Wilson is 15th all time in playoff wins at 9. That is every QB who has ever played!

                  Stafford, Brady, and Manning all have changed teams and gotten hardware. Wilson could be next!
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                  • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

                    5 last playoff appearances Manning was 6-4 before signing with the Broncos with NO draft picks/players traded.

                    5 last playoff appearances Wilson was 3-5 before singing with the Broncos with a boatload of draft picks/players.

                    If things didn’t work out with Manning the Broncos had their draft picks. If Wilson doesn’t deliver a SB championship as Manning did, the Broncos will have lost a significant amount of draft picks for a young franchise quarterback and multiple high round picks.

                    Wilson has to appear in a minimum of two Super Bowls and win one of them in the next four years. If not he’s a failure compared to Manning.

                    Now that you put Manning in the conversation be prepared to have Wilson meet or exceed his results:

                    2012 AFC West Title
                    2013 AFC West Champion and AFC Champion
                    2014 AFC West Title
                    2015 AFC West Title, AFC Champion and Super Bowl Champion




                    Wilson is 9-7 in the playoffs all time.

                    Matt Stafford was 0-3 before being traded to the Rams and then going 4-0 with a SB win. Doubt the Rams are worried about the picks they have up.
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                    • Wilson needs to deliver quickly. Broncos are starring down $50 mil per year salary with Wilson if he’s as elite as many fans claim.

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                      • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                        Wilson is 9-7 in the playoffs all time.

                        Matt Stafford was 0-3 before being traded to the Rams and then going 4-0 with a SB win. Doubt the Rams are worried about the picks they have up.
                        Padded by early success. Wilson fell off a cliff with playoff results since, 3-5 in 8 games and 1-3 in last 4.

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                        • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

                          Padded by early success. Wilson fell off a cliff with playoff results since, 3-5 in 8 games and 1-3 in last 4.
                          Or he faced better teams than his?

                          Was Doug Williams and Phil Simms better than John Elway? Or did they have better teams?

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                          • Originally posted by Fantaztic7 View Post

                            If those picks aren’t valuable why did Seattle not say, “Just keep those we’re good…”???
                            Please provide the player or players Denver could have drafted this season that would have given them a better chance at a SB this year.
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                            • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                              Or he faced better teams than his?

                              Was Doug Williams and Phil Simms better than John Elway? Or did they have better teams?
                              Or, Dan Reeves vs. Bill Parcells and Joe Gibbs.
                              "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                              • Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                                Please provide the player or players Denver could have drafted this season that would have given them a better chance at a SB this year.
                                Don’t change the subject. Jv said next year’s draft picks traded had no value. If that was the case Seattle would not have required those picks.

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