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  • Still not the worst trade in NFL history.
    You're Wrong!
    Recognize That You're Wrong!
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    • The extension is worse than the trade. I can’t forgive him for drafting Surtain over Parsons

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      • Originally posted by broncolee
        Still not the worst trade in NFL history.
        I agree. It's not but he is 4-13 as a starter here. He has a history of winning in the 4th quarter. He's known for dramatic game winning 4th quarter comebacks. Where did that go? I'm always an optimist and think it can get better but Russ's time is running out quickly. He probably only has until the bye week to get it right, unfortunately

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        • Originally posted by Capt. Jack

          I remember thinking Mike Ditka was crazy, at this point it seems like we definitely got fleeced ?

          All I know, is we're not winning many games with RW as our quarterback, For numerous different reasons, but one of them is definitely that our quarterback is suspect.

          There's a lot of balls batted down, and there's a lot of open receivers that he can't see, there are passes that lesser quarterbacks are making that he's not. it's just not working out.
          (YET)
          It is interesting to try and theorize what would make this the worst trade all time.

          Lets say Wilson does not have another winning season ever again. Not in Denver and not at the next team he goes to.

          All those picks for a losing Qb
          Unofficial Adopt a Bronco in 2023 is Russell Wilson. He getting a lot of hate from "Bronco Fans". I am going to support him. He is our Qb1 for 2023,

          "Losers assemble in little groups, and complain about the coaches and the players in other little groups, while winners assemble as a team." Bill Parcells

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          • Originally posted by Hadez

            It is interesting to try and theorize what would make this the worst trade all time.

            Lets say Wilson does not have another winning season ever again. Not in Denver and not at the next team he goes to.

            All those picks for a losing Qb
            Don’t have to theorize he’s a losing QB now. 4-13.

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            • Originally posted by stat

              Don’t have to theorize he’s a losing QB now. 4-13.
              True

              I am talking about something like 12-39 though. He will for sure get a shot at another team. Maybe one more after that.
              Unofficial Adopt a Bronco in 2023 is Russell Wilson. He getting a lot of hate from "Bronco Fans". I am going to support him. He is our Qb1 for 2023,

              "Losers assemble in little groups, and complain about the coaches and the players in other little groups, while winners assemble as a team." Bill Parcells

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              • Originally posted by Hadez

                True

                I am talking about something like 12-39 though. He will for sure get a shot at another team. Maybe one more after that.
                He’s a journeyman vet at this point. When he moves on will be a backup like Fitz, maybe a starter with a desperate team.

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                • It is without question one of the worst trades in NFL history and the worst trade in Broncos history (at least as far back as I can remember). The Wilson trade made our cap situation untenable, gave away much needed draft capital considering the lack of talent on this roster, and more than anything it committed the franchise to a guy who is over-the-hill and grossly overpaid. This is the type of move the Al Davis Raiders would make.

                  However, I think Paton has moves that rival this in terms of damage. Hiring Nathaniel Hackett to lure Rodgers (which failed miserably, what a surprise) gave us the worst coach in Broncos history.

                  I might get grilled for this, but for me Paton's worst move was drafting Surtain over Micah Parsons. Surtain is a wonderful talent, one of the truly elite corners in the game. However, an elite corner is nowhere near the value of an elite LB and pass rusher. Parsons is a future HOFer, a Von Miller type of defender whose presence alone pretty much makes your D a top 15 unit. When Surtain was drafted, we were not one player away from completing the defense. The Broncos will still deeply flawed but they elected to draft for positional need instead, which is almost always a bad move in the draft.

                  Paton needs to be canned after this year, and honestly people kind of owe Elway an apology. He had his flaws, yes, but he also helped construct one of the greatest defenses the league has ever seen. He successfully lured an elite QB and the team has suffered since he has been pushed away.

                  Anyway, enough ranting. With luck, the Broncos will end up with a top 2 pick this year and either end up with Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr., two potentially generational guys. If we can't win the Williams lottery, we have to pray that Payton is able to land a Brees-like home run so we don't have to watch Wilson under center for another year.

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                  • Originally posted by stat

                    He’s a journeyman vet at this point. When he moves on will be a backup like Fitz, maybe a starter with a desperate team.
                    Like the Broncos?
                    Unofficial Adopt a Bronco in 2023 is Russell Wilson. He getting a lot of hate from "Bronco Fans". I am going to support him. He is our Qb1 for 2023,

                    "Losers assemble in little groups, and complain about the coaches and the players in other little groups, while winners assemble as a team." Bill Parcells

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                    • Originally posted by Gyro
                      Anyway, enough ranting. With luck, the Broncos will end up with a top 2 pick this year and either end up with Williams or Marvin Harrison Jr., two potentially generational guys. If we can't win the Williams lottery, we have to pray that Payton is able to land a Brees-like home run so we don't have to watch Wilson under center for another year.
                      Some think Shedeur Sanders​ is maybe a top QB. I do not know much about college football.

                      I do like the way he ran down the field and confronted the opposing player who threw a cheap shot on his team mate. That kid plays with a fire in his heart and has got skillz.
                      Unofficial Adopt a Bronco in 2023 is Russell Wilson. He getting a lot of hate from "Bronco Fans". I am going to support him. He is our Qb1 for 2023,

                      "Losers assemble in little groups, and complain about the coaches and the players in other little groups, while winners assemble as a team." Bill Parcells

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                      • Originally posted by Hadez

                        Some think Shedeur Sanders​ is maybe a top QB. I do not know much about college football.

                        I do like the way he ran down the field and confronted the opposing player who threw a cheap shot on his team mate. That kid plays with a fire in his heart and has got skillz.
                        May respect parts of his game and competitive fire.

                        But his eye poke in the second Q was as classless a cheap shot on that field all game. Hard to respect that move.

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                        • Originally posted by FR Tim

                          May respect parts of his game and competitive fire.

                          But his eye poke in the second Q was as classless a cheap shot on that field all game. Hard to respect that move.
                          I only saw the replay.

                          Did not look like he actually poked the eye. Still not very classy messing with the facemask area.

                          Does bring into question if he can control his fire.
                          Unofficial Adopt a Bronco in 2023 is Russell Wilson. He getting a lot of hate from "Bronco Fans". I am going to support him. He is our Qb1 for 2023,

                          "Losers assemble in little groups, and complain about the coaches and the players in other little groups, while winners assemble as a team." Bill Parcells

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                          • Russel Wilson for Justin Fields and Denver receives a high pick? Or a 1st rd QB next year? or neither? Just throwing it out there, I know the first one won't happen

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                            • Originally posted by WYBRONCO
                              Russel Wilson for Justin Fields and Denver receives a high pick? Or a 1st rd QB next year? or neither? Just throwing it out there, I know the first one won't happen
                              If anybody would want Russell Wilson and take his contract, we would give them a third round pick or fourth round pick and Russell Wilson just to get rid of him .

                              NO COMPENSATION IN RETURN

                              The best thing that could ever happen to this organization is if he would retire or leave or some team would be dumb enough to trade for him.

                              I want him to work out for the Broncos, but how long do we have to wait to see something????
                              If he was a rookie we would have been fire and brimstone by now, Lynch mob mentality, run him out of town etc etc.

                              He hasn't done better than Case Keenum, Trevor Siemian, Teddy Bridgewater, or Drew Lock. He did a little bit better than Paxton Lynch, at this point he's a little bit better than Paxton Lynch.




                              Last edited by Capt. Jack; 09-19-2023, 06:57 AM.

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