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Any chance we could trade for Trey Lance ? Would cost peanuts for the next couple of years and I don’t think San Fran would asking too much for him in return.
Would be excited to see what his ceiling could be under Coach Payton.
I think they would want to much for him?
And, I would rather go with who we got right now.
I would like to see the Broncos draft a couple young quarterbacks in the next couple of years, and try to develop one.
I think they would want to much for him?
And, I would rather go with who we got right now.
I would like to see the Broncos draft a couple young quarterbacks in the next couple of years, and try to develop one.
I totally agree with you and the ask would be too much now. If Purdy is not able to come back 100% they may feel like they have to go with Lance. Or maybe just maybe Lance develops better and San Francisco has a competition. If neither one of those things happen and Lance really is just the backup, his price should go down a lot. While I would like a drafted newbie to develop if you could get him for say a 3rd round pick... that is not realistic I know.
He is definitely still in the development stages of his career.
I totally agree with you and the ask would be too much now. If Purdy is not able to come back 100% they may feel like they have to go with Lance. Or maybe just maybe Lance develops better and San Francisco has a competition. If neither one of those things happen and Lance really is just the backup, his price should go down a lot. While I would like a drafted newbie to develop if you could get him for say a 3rd round pick... that is not realistic I know.
He is definitely still in the development stages of his career.
I highly doubt there will be any blockbuster trades for any starting calibre QBs this year. I understand the desire to move on from RW, but it isn't happening this year. I personally prefer RW and SP have a good connection and we see a greatly improved offense. If RW sucks this year, then it might be a different story next offseason. Sorry folks, but RW will be the starting QB in 2023.
I highly doubt there will be any blockbuster trades for any starting calibre QBs this year. I understand the desire to move on from RW, but it isn't happening this year. I personally prefer RW and SP have a good connection and we see a greatly improved offense. If RW sucks this year, then it might be a different story next offseason. Sorry folks, but RW will be the starting QB in 2023.
Barring injury you are undoubtedly correct. I can't imagine a scenario where he would be benched.... for whom? There is no viable alternative in the squad, no solid back up vet and no promising but developmental youngster one basket, all the eggs.
As much as I would like to have a highly touted early first round reclamation project at QB waiting in the wings (not sure Lance even qualifies as that), behind Wilson, I’m not sure Lance is that guy for a few reasons.
First, the value is tricky on him. We really haven’t seen him play due to injuries. Now injuries would normally lower a player’s value, and teams asking about Lance will be sure to bring it up. However for the 49ers, while Purdy won a lot of games, he also suffered a very serious injury that could affect him long term more so than the injuries Lance has suffered. Even then, while Purdy won a lot, he didn’t show a ton that makes me buy into him as a franchise QB, at least not enough to justify trading Lance for a substantially diminished return. Purdy also had a ton of talent around him, he could very well be Nick Mullens rather than Joe Montana or even Jeff Garcia. So I don’t think most teams will balk at the asking price for Lance because he’s simply more valuable as an unknown to them.
Secondly, Trey Lance himself made some rather curious statements recently. When talking about some of the challenges he’s faced so far in his career, he mentioned having arm fatigue throughout the season. I consider that very strange for such a young QB who really hasn’t had to throw the ball a ton and was a backup his rookie season. Either he’s doing way too much, or he didn’t do enough up to this point because I don’t think I’ve ever heard of arm fatigue being an issue for a rookie QB. It may sound silly, but I definitely think it’s something to be wary of if you’re making a commitment and trading for him.
Now if we were to make a trade for a young QB that hasn’t lived up to early expectations I do think there are a few others around the league. Zach Wilson immediately jumps to my mind and his value should be considerably less than someone like Lance. Kellen Mond is another name that comes to mind, much like Lance he hasn’t had much of a chance to prove himself, but as a later pick he should still be cheaper to acquire. Matt Corral is another intriguing name as well as Malik Willis, 2 rookie QBs that have essentially been cast aside without really getting an opportunity to showcase much, Corral due to injury, and Willis due to not playing well in his limited run and ultimately getting benched for Josh Dobbs. Corral didn’t show anything so it’s hard to say where he’s at, Willis needs a lot of time to develop which he would have the luxury of having behind Wilson (hopefully).
I also think it should be mentioned that, Sean Payton was quick to retire when tasked with a rebuild of the Saints once Brees retired. He gave it one season and then retired. He had some success going 9-3 between Winston and Hill, but 0-5 with Siemian and Book. Now whether or not he retired due to him believing the team to be QB purgatory or because the team is in cap hell is something yet to be seen. Either way I don’t think Payton wants anything to do with a full on rebuild so if Wilson doesn’t play at a much higher level, I do believe we’ll be looking at making another blockbuster type of deal.
Our QB situation is settled for this year and is in flux for 2024 and 2025.
After that, we will be looking at an aging QB unless Stidham develops into a starter.
However, there are many possibilities between now and then that could also develop.
San Fran could decide this season or next between Brock and Trey and make one available.
The 2024 draft will purportedly be rich in high-quality QBs for Sean to develop,
although, I doubt we will be within range to grab one of them due to a successful year this year.
More than likely we will pick up another QB through free agency in 2025 if Jarrett is a bust.
After witnessing the development of Drew Brees under Payton, I trust him to develop Jarrett Stidham.
I also like the fact that if Russell doesn't perform up to Sean's standards, Sean is not afraid to bench him.
Drew Brees was a five year veteran QB who had walked away from a contract extension offer from the Chargers. He signed a contract with the Saints to play under rookie head coach Sean Payton. He had 58 starts in SD and was 30-28 under Marty Schottenheimer/Cam Cameron.
So, Sean Payton didn't exactly "develop" Drew Brees as he was an experienced NFL QB coming off an injury. Drew excelled in Sean Payton's system under his coaching.
Russell Wilson is also an experienced NFL QB coming off a poor season (by his standards) Sean Payton isn't a rookie head coach anymore. RW will perform better, worse or the the same as last year. We'll just need to wait and see what happens.
Sean Payton hit the ground running as Denver's new HC. He has already taken hold of the team and put his stamp on it. There are signs that the team has bought what he's selling, especially RW. There is reason to believe that Russell is well-suited to SP's offense. It will be interesting.
"Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
I do not know much about Lance but we have our Qb roster set for 2023. Unless someone thinks we going to carry 3 qbs (I do not) or we can get Lance to Practice Squad (I do not) then we probably do not try to get him.
When you want to feel negative about the Broncos think of this. Detroit Lions have 1 playoff win in the Super Bowl era in 1992 (1991 season). They are 0-3 in the playoffs since 2000.
Sam brings up a really good point. Payton has not really developed a young QB. Not very many teams develop QB's when they have Hall of Fame QB's running their offenses. In specifics of this thread, Trey Lance needs some development yet. I can't guarantee this year Lance would be better than Stidham.
For now unless SF is pretty much giving Lance away adding him to our current roster is not feasible.
Drew Brees was a five year veteran QB who had walked away from a contract extension offer from the Chargers. He signed a contract with the Saints to play under rookie head coach Sean Payton. He had 58 starts in SD and was 30-28 under Marty Schottenheimer/Cam Cameron.
So, Sean Payton didn't exactly "develop" Drew Brees as he was an experienced NFL QB coming off an injury. Drew excelled in Sean Payton's system under his coaching.
Russell Wilson is also an experienced NFL QB coming off a poor season (by his standards) Sean Payton isn't a rookie head coach anymore. RW will perform better, worse or the the same as last year. We'll just need to wait and see what happens.
Sean Payton hit the ground running as Denver's new HC. He has already taken hold of the team and put his stamp on it. There are signs that the team has bought what he's selling, especially RW. There is reason to believe that Russell is well-suited to SP's offense. It will be interesting.
The final two games last season pretty much showed everyone what was wrong with the team for Russel's first year as a Bronco. Should have fired that clown right after the Seattle game.
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