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  • JRWIZ
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    Originally posted by JoRo
    Well some things... like the forward pass.... are good enough they can still be quite good even wehn the "novelty" wears off...
    but that means our featherweights Oline will actually have to pass block and last year that was not a strong suit. Now supposedly we will be heavier on the OLINE. But lepsis might be back and might not be. Nalen is not what he used to be. pears or meadows at either RT or LT did not fair all the well.

    If memory serves correct alexander and scheffler were trying to help pass block.

    I think that the run blocking will be better because it sounds like we finally got a legit RB.

    Who knows for sure what is going to happen.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by JRWIZ
    But it did not catch on like it has now. SFO also had montana/young, rice a great TE and a RB that was great also and of course the master in Walsh.

    Big difference from ATL, HOU and CAR.
    What do Montana, Young, and Rice have to do with the blocking scheme? JR is wasn't not a novelty by time Shanahan brought it to Denver.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by JoRo
    Well some things... like the forward pass.... are good enough they can still be quite good even wehn the "novelty" wears off...
    Do you really thing so JoRo?

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  • JoRo
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    Originally posted by JRWIZ
    Denver has been very successful with zone blocking since Gibbs was in town, mainly because it was a novelty, defenses were not designed to play against it. And for one maybe two games a year (AFCW teams) who was going to practice against it or build a defense to stop it.

    Now we have DEN then ATL last year HOU joined the club and now the panthers.

    Instead of seeing the zone blocking once a year, a team could conceivably see it 3-5 times a year.

    Watch out for the sharp minds @ DC come up with a scheme to defeat it. AS it is copied by other teams more folks get used to it and the novelty wears off.

    It is just a matter of time before everyone figures out how to stop it consistently.

    Well some things... like the forward pass.... are good enough they can still be quite good even wehn the "novelty" wears off...

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  • JRWIZ
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    Originally posted by TXBRONC
    JR zone blocking was a novelty the 49ers were using it better than a decade ahead of us.
    But it did not catch on like it has now. SFO also had montana/young, rice a great TE and a RB that was great also and of course the master in Walsh.

    Big difference from ATL, HOU and CAR.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by ROCKIES
    It's not so much the zone blocking scheme that the Broncos have been critized for, as it is the legal, but questionable chop block that the Broncos have become feared for.
    Chop blocks are illegal, cut blocks are within the rules.

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  • TXBRONC
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    Originally posted by JRWIZ
    Denver has been very successful with zone blocking since Gibbs was in town, mainly because it was a novelty, defenses were not designed to play against it. And for one maybe two games a year (AFCW teams) who was going to practice against it or build a defense to stop it.

    Now we have DEN then ATL last year HOU joined the club and now the panthers.

    Instead of seeing the zone blocking once a year, a team could conceivably see it 3-5 times a year.

    Watch out for the sharp minds @ DC come up with a scheme to defeat it. AS it is copied by other teams more folks get used to it and the novelty wears off.

    It is just a matter of time before everyone figures out how to stop it consistently.

    JR zone blocking was a novelty the 49ers were using it better than a decade ahead of us.

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  • JRWIZ
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    Denver has been very successful with zone blocking since Gibbs was in town, mainly because it was a novelty, defenses were not designed to play against it. And for one maybe two games a year (AFCW teams) who was going to practice against it or build a defense to stop it.

    Now we have DEN then ATL last year HOU joined the club and now the panthers.

    Instead of seeing the zone blocking once a year, a team could conceivably see it 3-5 times a year.

    Watch out for the sharp minds @ DC come up with a scheme to defeat it. AS it is copied by other teams more folks get used to it and the novelty wears off.

    It is just a matter of time before everyone figures out how to stop it consistently.

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  • ROCKIES
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    Originally posted by fxblitz
    Well, at least if people are using it, they can't criticize us for it!!!

    It's not so much the zone blocking scheme that the Broncos have been critized for, as it is the legal, but questionable chop block that the Broncos have become feared for.

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  • #7BroncsFan
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    Obviously, the zone blocking scheme seems to work. Teams are using it all over the league, not to mention a ton in college. It gets a bad rap for the whole cut blocking thing, but that's only a small part of the system. The only thing that could be a draw back, is that the zone blocking ideal doesn't seem to promote strong pass blocking. So, teams need mobile quarterbacks to counteract that. But I think the positives outweight the bads, cause both here and in Houston, zone blocking has made Ron Dayne look good.

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  • fxblitz
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    I guess we don't hear anyone in Denver complaining about it is because we don't have any d-lineman that are good enough to know the difference.

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  • fxblitz
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    Originally posted by stnzed
    Every o-lineman in the league does what the Broncos o-lineman get's criticized for!

    The Broncos just do it until these fat d-lineman don't want to get up anymore! It's just easier for them to cry about it than to fight through it.

    Every team does it.....FB's do it....TE's do it!
    So true

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  • stnzed
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    Originally posted by fxblitz
    Well, at least if people are using it, they can't criticize us for it!!!


    Every o-lineman in the league does what the Broncos o-lineman get's criticized for!

    The Broncos just do it until these fat d-lineman don't want to get up anymore! It's just easier for them to cry about it than to fight through it.

    Every team does it.....FB's do it....TE's do it!

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  • fxblitz
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    Well, at least if people are using it, they can't criticize us for it!!!

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  • stnzed
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    Jordan Gross will excel in this scheme

    Which means that the slim chance of him ever coming to Denver as a FA is even slimmer!


    Mathis should do well too, imo.

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