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    John Fox licked his fingers, one after the other.

    Hey, this wasn't a white-tablecloth joint. There's only one way to eat barbecue chicken at the Broncos' cafeteria.

    "They got me on a tight schedule," Fox, the Denver coach who just last week celebrated his 57th birthday, said Monday.

    The talk turned to New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin, who won his two NFL championships at age 61 and 65. Maybe Fox can become the next AARP member of the Super Bowl club.

    "We've got to get the talent level to where we can win too," Fox said. "We're not there yet. Although we're getting closer."

    The Broncos were 9-9 last season — good enough to win the AFC West and a first-round playoff game; not good enough to end their Super Bowl drought that has lasted 13 seasons.

    Fox had just left a football operations meeting that began at 8 a.m. and ended at noon. After a quick lunch of macaroni and cheese and finger-licking-good chicken, and a workout in the new team fitness center devised by new strength and conditioning coach Luke Richesson, meetings were to reconvene at 1:30 p.m. and last until perhaps 6 p.m. It has been this way the past two weeks as the Broncos prepare for the NFL scouting combine, which begins Wednesday in Indianapolis.

    The scouting combine will fill downtown Indy with college players eligible for the April 26-28 draft and agents representing NFL players who will hit the free-agent market March 13.

    Fox confirmed the Broncos' most pressing needs this offseason: cornerback, defensive tackle, running back, quarterback, No. 3 receiver (if Eddie Royal leaves in free agency) and interior offensive line depth. Also, they are expected to use free agency to add depth at linebacker and safety, particularly if strong safety Brian Dawkins retires.

    But no matter how the Broncos approach the reshaping of their roster in the next two months, the moves that will draw the greatest interest will be those affecting Tim Tebow.

    Tebow is the Broncos' starting quarterback and Adam Weber is under contract, but the team is expected to acquire two QBs this offseason.

    "Numbers wise, that's accurate," Fox said. "Who, what, where, when, what market — it's still way too early how we get those quarterbacks."

    Other subjects covered by Fox over lunch Monday:

    • Dawkins, a nine-time Pro Bowler who missed the Broncos' two playoff games because of a neck injury and will turn 39 in October, will retire or return to Denver for one more season. "Obviously he's been a great player in his career and for us," Fox said. "Both of us need time."

    • Ty Warren, who missed the 2011 season because of an injury, hasn't been counted out to help strengthen the Broncos at defensive tackle. Warren has been working out. "He's under contract," Fox said.

    • Mike Sullivan, the Broncos' new salary cap guru and contract negotiator, started his job Monday. That means the Broncos will begin negotiating with their 17 potential free agents this week. The franchise tag period opened Monday, but the Broncos didn't place it on kicker Matt Prater, at least not yet. They will try to negotiate a long-term deal with Prater. "At the end of the day," Fox said, "he's a player we want back on our team, and we'll see where it goes."

    • Backup running back Knowshon Moreno, who followed up a season-ending knee injury by being charged with driving under the influence: "We take that stuff seriously," Fox said. "We've addressed it. We've talked to him. You don't see too many perfect people walking around. But we'll monitor him moving forward."

    • Fox endorsed Tebow working out with UCLA quarterbacks coach Noel Mazzone the past week or so. NFL players cannot meet with their own coaches until April 16.

    Any concerns the techniques Mazzone teaches would be counterproductive to those taught by Broncos'offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and quarterbacks coach Adam Gase?

    "This isn't rocket science," Fox said.

    The draft: The Broncos have the No. 25 pick in rounds 1 through 4, then the No. 2 pick in the fifth round.
    "We're not in bad shape," Fox said. "You can always get good players. It doesn't matter where you pick. There's no automatics in this thing. Look at the history books. The good news is this draft is good in all our needs: D-line and secondary."

    • Free agency: The Broncos have their free-agent board lined up in order of preference. But that board will be fluid.

    "You've got to have price tags before you buy stuff," Fox said. "Right now there's no price tags. It's like, 'Honey, I really like that pair of boots.' Well, how much are they? They look great if they're $100 instead of $1,000."

    How about potential free-agent quarterbacks Drew Brees and Peyton Manning?

    "They're a great-looking pair of boots," Fox said, laughing.



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    According to the bolded part, these are our 2012 draft picks. If this is accurate, where in the hell is our 7th rd pick? Report/Rumor was last year that we traded Alphonso Smith to the Lions for Gronkowski and a 7th rd pick. We never got that 7th rd pick. I hope to God it wasn't the other way and WE traded our 7th along with Smith for Gronkowski. Does ANYBODY know where it's at?
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    oh wow. We don't have a 7? Time to take it off my mock

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    • #3
      Originally posted by one5beast View Post
      oh wow. We don't have a 7? Time to take it off my mock
      Hmm, was that one for the Quinn trade?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by muse View Post
        Hmm, was that one for the Quinn trade?
        Nope. Notice that OUR 5th wasn't even listed. The 5th we got from the Rams in the Lloyd trade was. So our 5th goes to the Browns. The Browns would receive ATLEAST a 6th rd pick in 2012. Our 7th isn't an option. And our 6th is gone to the Eagles for Mays.
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        • #5
          To me this sounds like we add Dan Connor in free agency (as insurance for Nate Irving at MLB). He fits the "depth" definition to a TEE. I also sense we look at a SS in free agency.

          Sounds like our "big" splashes in free agency will be CB & DT, obviously. And we'll probably back this up with top draft picks.

          I'm sure the top dawgs are atop our big board, but once prices start to be floating around... we'll target those bargain, middle-rung guys. Spread those dollars around to upgrade talent over multiple positions.

          We'll use the draft to try and find our "elite" pro bowl talent level players.

          We wont overspend to grab the best DT or CB, instead using that cash to find a WR #3, a DT, an interior OL, a SS & 2 LBs. Who knows.

          As for RB... History suggests we grab one in the first 2 rounds. This is the FOX way. Plus, we wont sign a big ticket RB like Rice. We have WM, so we wont bring in a band aid. I think this means we go all in on a RB in round 2.

          Still sounds like we go DL, RB & CB with our first 3 picks. Toss in a QB. There's 4 of our 5 picks fellows.
          Last edited by fraguela09; 02-21-2012, 08:16 AM.

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          • #6
            Yep, thats the needs. Good to hear Fox mention DL and secondary.

            We have 2 5ths and no 6 or 7

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fraguela09 View Post
              To me this sounds like we add Dan Connor in free agency (as insurance for Nate Irving at MLB). He fits the "depth" definition to a TEE. I also sense we look at a SS in free agency.

              Sounds like our "big" splashes in free agency will be CB & DT, obviously. And we'll probably back this up with top draft picks.

              I'm sure the top dawgs are atop our big board, but once prices start to be floating around... we'll target those bargain, middle-rung guys. Spread those dollars around to upgrade talent over multiple positions.

              We'll use the draft to try and find our "elite" pro bowl talent level players.

              We wont overspend to grab the best DT or CB, instead using that cash to find a WR #3, a DT, an interior OL, a SS & 2 LBs. Who knows.

              As for RB... History suggests we grab one in the first 2 rounds. This is the FOX way. Plus, we wont sign a big ticket RB like Rice. We have WM, so we wont bring in a band aid. I think this means we go all in on a RB in round 2.

              Still sounds like we go DL, RB & CB with our first 3 picks. Toss in a QB. There's 4 of our 5 picks fellows.
              I agree with most of this, but I don't think we get Connor. Why spend out for him when it sounds like Irving will start and Mays is a good back-up / ST player.

              If we sign Connor it will be for starting money and we have seen reports recently of how high Irving is thought of.

              I would use the money elsewhere

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              • #8
                I still think we sign Carr, and a DT as "big" splashes and get others for depth. This addresses DT and CB needs then we draft Nick Foles in the first or second. Call me weird I just get that feeling. Foles fits what Elway wants.

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                • #9
                  I'm thinking conditionals aren't yet finalized an therefore aren't listed for us having or not having.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MorenoFan27 View Post
                    I still think we sign Carr, and a DT as "big" splashes and get others for depth. This addresses DT and CB needs then we draft Nick Foles in the first or second. Call me weird I just get that feeling. Foles fits what Elway wants.
                    Many Broncos fans would be puking if we grabbed Foles in the first or second. I think we'll focus on CB and DT in the draft. Just like Fox said, and how Elway stated last year when he said that pass rushers and CB are the two most important positions after QB.

                    Elway and Fox keep mentioning the talent level of the team. Its hard to improve the overall talent level of a team when you pick a Qb in the top rounds every three years.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BF_forever View Post
                      Many Broncos fans would be puking if we grabbed Foles in the first or second. I think we'll focus on CB and DT in the draft. Just like Fox said, and how Elway stated last year when he said that pass rushers and CB are the two most important positions after QB.

                      Elway and Fox keep mentioning the talent level of the team. Its hard to improve the overall talent level of a team when you pick a Qb in the top rounds every three years.
                      I agree. I just have a wierd feeling that Brandon Weeden will be the selction come the 3rd round if he is there. He is older and more mature. He also has an arm. Given that it would be a 3rd round pick, it would be more to give Tebow some competition, whereas if you draft a guy in the 1st, its a sign that you have no faith in what you have.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by #87Birdman
                        http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=207877

                        I would expect better from a mod

                        But to be fair it was in the FA and Draft section lol
                        Well...it is a news story, although I could see why it was posted in the Draft & Free Agency forum.

                        However, the purpose of this forum is for all news articles to be posted here. All discussions on subjects belong in their separate forums, but the articles and discussions about articles belong here.
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                        • #13
                          I don't understand why this would be flipped over to the News Wire when it directly pertains to what we talk about on a daily basis in the DTFA forum.

                          I do understand it is a news article, but when it comes to the draft, trades, and free agency, this is about as good as it gets - straight from the horses mouth - John Fox - in terms of how this offseason's direction may alight itself.

                          Are you saying that we have to reference the article and simply elaborate on it with a discussion question in the DTFA section?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JayJack View Post
                            The draft: The Broncos have the No. 25 pick in rounds 1 through 4, then the No. 2 pick in the fifth round.
                            "We're not in bad shape," Fox said. "You can always get good players. It doesn't matter where you pick. There's no automatics in this thing. Look at the history books. The good news is this draft is good in all our needs: D-line and secondary."


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MorenoFan27 View Post
                              I still think we sign Carr, and a DT as "big" splashes and get others for depth. This addresses DT and CB needs then we draft Nick Foles in the first or second. Call me weird I just get that feeling. Foles fits what Elway wants.
                              I hope your wrong, i know your not sold on Tebow, neither am i, but a QB in the 1st 2 rounds would be a waste.

                              We have other holes that need to be filled.

                              CB, DL, WR, RB should and hopefully will be our top 2 picks.

                              Would love to get Carr though.

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