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  • Chillez
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    Originally posted by BroncoSexyDaddy View Post


    Williams look really good sporting the Denver Jersey.Wow,that's a big guy!
    He looks great.

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  • BroncoSexyDaddy
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    Williams look really good sporting the Denver Jersey.Wow,that's a big guy!

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    I don't want to say that anyone is right or wrong about how they feel about this. I do have my own opinion however.

    If Sylvester was my son I would be very proud of him. Yes, he use to be lazy, but by all accounts he has been both a model athlete and model student for the last four years. That is worthy of commendation. He recognized the error of his ways, and that is commendable.

    Whether or not it's self induced, adversity is adversity. I understand that there are many others who have endured far worst than Sylvester, but I still feel his work ethic is commendable. He recognized the error of his ways and changed. That's a fine example for others to follow.

    IMO, judging him as a lazy person is a little unfair, considering everyone around him for the last 4 years has considered him to be someone who has matured a lot and is very hard working.
    Last edited by Al Wilson 4 Mayor; 05-06-2013, 09:29 AM.

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  • Matymaddog
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    I guess we will agree to disagree. Although yes, laziness was a factor I also think he was focused on making money and for all the wrong reasons in all the wrong ways. When he truly understood the value of schooling and future of opportunities a light turned on.

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  • CoryWinget81
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog View Post
    Adversity is all a matter of perspective. You lose power for two weeks in suburbia and people see it as adversity. You go on a camping trip for 2 weeks and it's a vacation. You live in a household neglected by parents to do as you please and make decisions on your own without much guidance and that could be adversity but if you choose to not to go to class and rather work two jobs and skip out on school it's laziness. You live in a house with abusive parents opposed to neglectful ones and it's seen as more adversity.

    I'm not defending anything, simply acknowledging adversity comes in all shapes and sizes. Self-imposed adversity is still adversity. When you get yourself off track it's much easier to keep on that route and much harder to switch tracks onto the right path.

    He wasn't working two jobs at a time, and even if he was they weren't two full jobs at a time. He wasn't working those jobs to pay bills or have a place to live, he was working those jobs because he wanted a Cut Supreme (or maybe a Tahoe). He was provided for, and he had support around him. His sister made it to college, and don't give me the "girls mature faster".

    He did what he wanted. Thought he knew it all.

    He realized that the path he was on wasn't going to get him what he wanted, so he changed paths and realized a greater goal.

    How is this different from anyone in life?


    I do agree that adversity is in the eye of the beholder. Someone ranted to me personally awhile back about the "adversity" a certain player who shall not be named endured to become a first round pick and player in the NFL. He was very angry with my response.

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  • theMileHighGuy
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    Sounds like a pretty unmotivated and lazy dude to me... and I know lazy first hand. Hope he doesn't revert after he's a multimillionaire.

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  • Matymaddog
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    Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
    worked at taco bell
    quit
    worked at wal-mart
    quit
    worked at radiator machine shop

    where are the overlapping jobs? You were insinuating he was basically working two jobs, were you not?

    Why are you defending this guy like he's your cousin? It's plain and simple. He didn't want to go to school because he wanted to do what he wanted to do. He got his act together and worked hard enough to be a 1st round pick.

    This isn't "adversity". This is "life".
    Williams spent his time and energy working at Backyard Burgers and taking the late-night shift at Taco Bell
    Adversity is all a matter of perspective. You lose power for two weeks in suburbia and people see it as adversity. You go on a camping trip for 2 weeks and it's a vacation. You live in a household neglected by parents to do as you please and make decisions on your own without much guidance and that could be adversity but if you choose to not to go to class and rather work two jobs and skip out on school it's laziness. You live in a house with abusive parents opposed to neglectful ones and it's seen as more adversity.

    I'm not defending anything, simply acknowledging adversity comes in all shapes and sizes. Self-imposed adversity is still adversity. When you get yourself off track it's much easier to keep on that route and much harder to switch tracks onto the right path.

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  • CoryWinget81
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    worked at taco bell
    quit
    worked at wal-mart
    quit
    worked at radiator machine shop

    where are the overlapping jobs? You were insinuating he was basically working two jobs, were you not?

    Why are you defending this guy like he's your cousin? It's plain and simple. He didn't want to go to school because he wanted to do what he wanted to do. He got his act together and worked hard enough to be a 1st round pick.

    This isn't "adversity". This is "life".

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  • CoryWinget81
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    Life finally started to smooth out. That is, until one potentially disastrous backslide during finals week. Williams had to pass Thomas’ PE final to be eligible for football, but he wasn’t in class.

    “For some reason I decided I didn’t want to go to school that day,” Williams says. “I guess it was just the old me coming out again.”

    So Thomas called LePage, told him the situation, and the head coach immediately took off. LePage got Williams to class in time to take the final, which he passed.


    Lazy.

    One morning, his father—also named Sylvester—decided he’d had enough of Williams’ apathetic school habits. When he woke up to find his truant son still asleep, he made a phone call.

    “About 10 minutes later, the police came knocking on the door,” Williams says. “So he told them, ‘Man, I keep telling him to go to school and he doesn’t want to go. He don’t understand that he ain’t going to be able to make it without going to school.’ So the police officer took me to school, let me ride in the front seat and dropped me off right in front of the door.”

    That should have been the turning point in Williams’ life, the wake-up call that finally put him on the path to success.

    It wasn’t.

    A few weeks later, Williams was kicked out of school for poor attendance.


    Lazy.

    The rest after that, when he decided he wasn't going to get his rides working at Taco Bell and Wal-mart, then realizing he wanted more, is where his story picks up. He drags his ass across the state to somewhere where no one wanted him and he busted his butt for the opportunity.

    There's the story.

    The only adversity he had was self-inflicted.


    I'm not saying I don't like the kid, or saying that he's lazy now, etc etc. I'm just saying many people come from similar situations, broken homes, poor as dirt homes, that you never hear a peep of. Kids that work hard not only in school but on the field to make an opportunity for themselves. It becomes their goal and dreams but you never hear about it because they weren't a first round pick or a budding star at a Div 1 school.

    That's all I'm sayin.

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  • Matymaddog
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    Williams spent his time and energy working at Backyard Burgers and taking the late-night shift at Taco Bell, trying to make some money so he could buy a 1987 Cutlass Supreme.
    But after his senior year, he didn't have enough self-confidence to believe he could go to college, earn a degree and keep playing football. So, the day after graduation, the 19-year-old Williams quit Taco Bell and began working at Walmart. Then he quit Walmart and started working at the Modine Manufacturing Co., for $400 a week.
    The money was OK, but assembling radiators was not his life's dream. He felt that every time he stood on the line for an eight-hour shift.
    "I saw people who had worked in the factory for 30 or 40 years," Williams said. "There's nothing wrong with that, but I just couldn't see myself doing that for my whole life. I knew that was as high as I was going to go with just a high school diploma."

    http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2...os-scholarship

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  • CoryWinget81
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog View Post
    I keep hearing the word laziness thrown around. It had little to do with laziness and more to do with focusing on the wrong things in life. You don't exude laziness when you work 2 jobs just because you skip school. It means you don't have the right priorities.

    His mother was not around and where was his support system during his fathers addiction?
    If you just "don't wanna go to school" (his words, not mine) it means your lazy. I only saw the 1 job in the story, I didn't see two simultaneous jobs.

    He had an aunt I believe, and other people. His coaches coming to find him and drag him to school, etc.

    This is not an overcoming adversity story. This is a laziness and "I do what I want" story.

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  • Matymaddog
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    No one can force you to do something. The choice is yours to make.

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  • Matymaddog
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    Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
    He had a support system that picked him up everytime he started to fall back out. He did make a big leap to go to the JC and work his ass off for the opportunity.


    His initial failure was being lazy. He overcame his laziness after people forced him not to be.

    I give credit to him for working hard to be a first round pick, but there was no "overcoming adversity" story here. Not every hard luck story is "The Blind Side" (also highly exaggerated)
    I keep hearing the word laziness thrown around. It had little to do with laziness and more to do with focusing on the wrong things in life. You don't exude laziness when you work 2 jobs just because you skip school. It means you don't have the right priorities.

    His mother was not around and where was his support system during his fathers addiction?

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  • CoryWinget81
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    He had a support system that picked him up everytime he started to fall back out. He did make a big leap to go to the JC and work his ass off for the opportunity.


    His initial failure was being lazy. He overcame his laziness after people forced him not to be.

    I give credit to him for working hard to be a first round pick, but there was no "overcoming adversity" story here. Not every hard luck story is "The Blind Side" (also highly exaggerated)

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  • broncos SB2010
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog View Post
    I can only guess it was directed at me since you are saying I am making excuses for him. Not to mention it's not often for people to say "Bite me" to ideas when talking directly to someone they believe exude those ideals. So forgive me if I don't believe that cover up
    you aren't the only one making those excuses. And again...I couldn't care less what you believe, but it is the truth.

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