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    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-...parks-patriots

    "Through the week, we knew they run a lot of crossing routes, but it's not the shallow crossing route that is the No. 1 target. It's the shallow route that pulls you up to get the over routes in there," [Ninkovich] said.

    "He'd rather throw the over than the shallow cross, so you let that [cross] go. [Sanders] ran a quick under and I just knew that he was going throw that over so I just backed straight up and he threw it right to me."

    While the players get the credit for executing the plan, not to be overlooked is the coaching staff that drew it up. While some might look at Manning's final stat line (34-of-57 for 438 yards, 2 TDs, 2 INTs) and assume he had a big day, that was anything but the case.

    That's a credit to Belichick, defensive coordinator Matt Patricia and the team's defensive assistants.

    "It was a great game plan and our coaches are very smart at game-planning," Revis said. "They've played Peyton in the past numerous times. We had them down in this one."
    Just like what Sherman said at the Super Bowl. They had our offense figured out and were confident the entire game. Way to be predictable and not change anything up, Broncos!

    Meanwhile, our secondary is running around like chickens with their heads chopped off on every third and long. Belichick is playing chess with 4 year olds.

  • #2
    It's disheartening, and our defense can't duplicate anything like it in these games.
    KENTUCKY WILDCATS/DENVER BRONCOS

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    • #3
      typical, same old crap new day...when will our coaching staff wake up?

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      • #4
        Yup, very disheartening to be predictable. The reason Manning always has a hard time beating the Pats...coaching and always playing them on the road.
        Adopted Bronco: DeMarcus Ware

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        • #5
          Originally posted by WildcatsBroncos View Post
          It's disheartening, and our defense can't duplicate anything like it in these games.
          Of course they can....we have a GREAT defense. The issue is that there guys (our guys) are being coaches based on numbers and percentages. AKA PREDICTABLE. SO when a coach like BB and Patricia who know their stuff and are stellar coaches they know with near certainty what we're gonna do because they just pick the defensive scheme to stop the percentages. Since it takes our coaches so long to make defensive adjustments in-game a team like the Patriots (as they showed) can put point up on the board and make it even tougher for us to get back in it.

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          • #6
            Of course they have it figured out. Broncos offense is one dimensional.

            No run game. No threat of a Manning scramble. Kind of makes defense a lot easier when you take away a couple of options. There are no surprises here. Same old story. Just have to hope the Broncos can get a different result in the playoffs.

            Pat's (and other) defenses can dictate the flow of play Manning runs. For much of the game they played a 4-2-5 scheme. With a coverage LB in Collins. They played the WRs physical, they had safety help and as Nink said "we knew they run a lot of crossing routes". They played the odds and won. As teams have before. The Pats have the quality secondary to pull it off. Same as Seattle.

            They were begging for the Broncos to run the ball. Broncos just could not deliver.

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            • #7
              I don't get the coach blaming from some. You take the good with the bad with Manning. The good is obviously very good but he has some bad. His bad is getting worse because at the end of the day he just doesn't move well. How many times did Brady make a play outside the pocket? That's really not much of an option for Manning. It never was much of one and definitely is less of one now.

              Our running game is not a big help to Manning but again he does contribute to the problem. A QB doesn't have to be super mobile but he should make the D play a little more honest. We can't do stretch run plays that may open up some running lanes/cut backs because Manning can't get out of his box.

              He's a sitting duck and if you can get to him then you have a chance. Denver fans need to realize that Manning is what he is and statistically he's darn good. But don't pretend he can be so much more, he can't. He's gonna read the D and choose execution, control, predictability over anything creative. This is how he operates. Take it or leave it.
              Anybody know how to get out of Plan A? - Elway

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              • #8
                and that comes down to coaching strategy. just like the super bowl. strategy was too predictable and was not changed during the game

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                • #9
                  Every team has their bad days. The broncos had their turn looking bad. And so did the Chargers.
                  Someone tell me honestly, are the Chargers 37 points worse than Miami ?
                  The Jets lost to KC by just 14. KC destroyed the Pats. We beat KC. Took last play heroics, but we did.
                  In the NFL you can never tell. Never.
                  Maybe the Broncos needed a bad showing. Even against NE.
                  All in all I still think we'll be bowling in February. We might even win this time.

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                  • #10
                    The game did remind of super 48, we have a high powered offense, but we face a coach/staff with know how and talent on the field to shut it down. The score board board wasn't as bad, but their ability to stop the run game and make every pass a physical battle for the ball was pretty amazing. With his size, Browner was shutting down JT. You could go on ... maybe we need to watch the game film and our coaches can learn a few things here and there, to figure out what they were doing ... from the Patriots coaching staff. It's a copy cat league, they say.
                    Last edited by JesseH; 11-03-2014, 05:14 PM.

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                    • #11
                      In the past, We all know why patriots and bellicheat "figured out" offenses. Ask Ted Johnson about the how.

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                      • #12
                        Give Bellichick our defensive personnel and he Will stop brady. Fox is no match...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by fraguela09 View Post
                          In the past, We all know why patriots and bellicheat "figured out" offenses. Ask Ted Johnson about the how.
                          Lol classic butt-hurt.. its not because the Broncos offense is one dimensional and very predictable?

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                          • #14
                            Every teams offense is predictable. This notion that were the only predictable offense is ludicrous. Them coming out and saying this only hurts them in a rematch as Peyton will be more willing to go underneath with those crossing routes and with sanders and dt they can get some serious yac

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
                              Every teams offense is predictable. This notion that were the only predictable offense is ludicrous. Them coming out and saying this only hurts them in a rematch as Peyton will be more willing to go underneath with those crossing routes and with sanders and dt they can get some serious yac
                              The football people said, and I believe it, that this is not true.

                              The Pats make completely new plays every week that they think will expose the teams they play. Sometimes they do not make it....sometimes they steal the play (see Gronk's TD...look familiar...remember JT doing that a couple times and one time yelling it was too easy??).

                              We are not 100% predictable but we do seem to get out coached allot. We have to go back to Wade Phillips imo to remember a Bronco coaching staff getting out coached as much as this one.

                              IMO we would be out coached more then any Bronco coaching staff I have watched if PM was not here.

                              Fox was not hired because he is really good imo as his team was the only team losing us much as us...he was hired because he is NOT really bad and after those McD years we just needed someone to straighten the ship.

                              Well it is straight...sooner or later we going to look to take the next step. Either that will be Fox wining a ring or that will be Fox losing his job. Period that is what the NFL is about.
                              Time to build on the win and grow the team from some solid play higher level of play

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