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  • #16
    We throw out new things every week as well. But every team has staple plays that you know are coming. About 85-95% of the plays that are called are called every week. Teams don't add a lot of new plays every week because they don't have enough time to practice it and perfect it. For instance, seattles defense runs a variation of cover 3 almost every single play, incredibly predictable but they practice it so much that it doesn't matter. How predictable was our offense with shanny and Plummer? It didn't matter because we were great at it.

    We don't realize how predictable other teams are because we don't watch them every week. The problem with our offense is also it's greatest strength. It's a timing offense. The patriots scouted our offense very well, they know that we like to draw linebackers towards the shallow crossing routes and throw it over their heads. The problem defenses have with this route concept is that linebackers can't see the receivers behind them, so they naturally go towards the shallow receiver because they see them running free. But the patriots, ninkovich in particular on his int trusted his coaches and their scouting report and let that receiver run free knowing that Peyton wanted to hit the intermediate route, even if he dumps it off to that shallow receiver they just have to come up and make the tackle and it's a minimal gain.

    Peyton thought that ninkovich would be rushing. His first read was to the left, then he went to the intermediate receiver so he never saw ninkovich dropping back in coverage on the right side of the field. Had he saw him he wouldn't have put the ball out in front of the receiver if he tried to throw it at all. Peyton got himself into a pattern, he has to throw it to that shallow crosser more often to keep defenses honest.

    Actually we ran a play to combat that after the int. It was a wr middle screen of sorts where all the receivers and rb went to block while the receiver (DT I believe) ran a crossing route. It was on 3rd and long and almost went for a first down. We've ran this play a handful of times since Peyton has been here, it might be time to run it more if teams are going to play us like this consistently.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by beastlyskronk View Post
      We throw out new things every week as well. But every team has staple plays that you know are coming. About 85-95% of the plays that are called are called every week. Teams don't add a lot of new plays every week because they don't have enough time to practice it and perfect it. For instance, seattles defense runs a variation of cover 3 almost every single play, incredibly predictable but they practice it so much that it doesn't matter. How predictable was our offense with shanny and Plummer? It didn't matter because we were great at it.

      We don't realize how predictable other teams are because we don't watch them every week. The problem with our offense is also it's greatest strength. It's a timing offense. The patriots scouted our offense very well, they know that we like to draw linebackers towards the shallow crossing routes and throw it over their heads. The problem defenses have with this route concept is that linebackers can't see the receivers behind them, so they naturally go towards the shallow receiver because they see them running free. But the patriots, ninkovich in particular on his int trusted his coaches and their scouting report and let that receiver run free knowing that Peyton wanted to hit the intermediate route, even if he dumps it off to that shallow receiver they just have to come up and make the tackle and it's a minimal gain.

      Peyton thought that ninkovich would be rushing. His first read was to the left, then he went to the intermediate receiver so he never saw ninkovich dropping back in coverage on the right side of the field. Had he saw him he wouldn't have put the ball out in front of the receiver if he tried to throw it at all. Peyton got himself into a pattern, he has to throw it to that shallow crosser more often to keep defenses honest.

      Actually we ran a play to combat that after the int. It was a wr middle screen of sorts where all the receivers and rb went to block while the receiver (DT I believe) ran a crossing route. It was on 3rd and long and almost went for a first down. We've ran this play a handful of times since Peyton has been here, it might be time to run it more if teams are going to play us like this consistently.
      Great post, It just seems like playing in a hostile environment increases a defense's chance of disrupting a play exponentially. By killing the opportunity to make an audible the defense can almost "read the O" and in essence, figure it out. We have not done well in loud stadiums against quality teams for this reason. Peyton's temper tantrum at the end of the SD game is a classic example of how much he relies on the ability to change the play even when leading.

      We must get better running the ball.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Hadez View Post
        The football people said, and I believe it, that this is not true.

        The Pats make completely new plays every week that they think will expose the teams they play. Sometimes they do not make it....sometimes they steal the play (see Gronk's TD...look familiar...remember JT doing that a couple times and one time yelling it was too easy??).

        They haven't won a Super Bowl in 10 years.

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