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  • Iron Clady
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    As of right now:

    Clady-?-Paradis-Vasquez-Schofield

    If we re-sign Franlin he probably sticks at guard and I would guess that is our lineup unless we sign/draft (first 2 rounds) a center to play over Paradis.

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  • JayJack
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    Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
    I think Schofield starts in some capacity, whether it's at LG or RT idk. That said, IMO Denver will have 3 new starters, but I think at least 1 is already on the roster.
    Right now I see Paradis starting at Center.

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  • the0rangecrush
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    I think Schofield starts in some capacity, whether it's at LG or RT idk. That said, IMO Denver will have 3 new starters, but I think at least 1 is already on the roster.

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  • MHSalute
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    OC Hudson (FA)
    RT Newton (FA)
    LG C Erving (draft)

    Done! Paridis can back up both LG and C spot, but we may bring Montgomery back to back up C. Erving may also have the length to play LT, so I could see us double dipping in the draft at G ( Ervings teammate Matias and ASU Douglas would both be decent picks in round 4) ...Frankin walks as he will want Beadles money imo. Give Franklin's $$$ to Hudson (and think Hudson comes cheaper anyways), and solve our interior for the next 4 years.

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  • qbronco
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    I could see us going with 3 new starters or just 1.

    LT=CLADY*
    LG=FRANKLIN/GARLAND
    C= MONTGOMERY/RAMIREZ
    RG= VASQUEZ*
    RT= New Starter/SCHOFIELD

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  • Broncos1963
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    If I were to hazard a guess, I think Denver resigns Franklin and moves him to RT. I think JT will end up in a different uniform. If there is a solid vet C FA available (maybe Wisniewski?), I expect Elway to go after him. For some reason, Denver has missed on multiple D draft picks. Although, I believe JD Walton had a decent year for the Giants. I don't have a clue about plans for LG. I'm not sure they have anyone on the roster that can fill that spot. Maybe they can find a tough kid in the draft to immediately step in. I hope.

    I expect next year's line to start the season: Clady, rookie, FA, Vasquez, Franklin.

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  • Peanut
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  • Butler By'Note
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    If they're down in a 50 and the backside guard and centre can get a lot of movement on the NT it can open up huge cutback lanes.

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  • samparnell
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    10 odd fronts means plenty of inside zone to me, especially if they're playing their outside backers up in a 50.
    Sure. It's a waste of time and effort to try and run outside on an odd front 50/3-4. Trapping the play side Backer works well, too, especially if the Ends are in 5 tech.

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  • broncoslover115
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    Originally posted by Houshmazode View Post
    Well, money will be part of it unless Manning restructures, but I meant that Julius' poor blocking did not help the oline at all and will be the main reason he isn't returning. If we're going to move to Kubiak's offense, we need players who buy into blocking and are proficient at it, having Thomas in there is a liability and puts more pressure than needed on our tackles when he lines up next to them. I'm not an expert on the business side, coaching side or playing side by any means but I believe our overall goal is to improve the run and pass blocking and paying Julius what he'll command on the market still leaves us with the need for another blocking TE (Dominique Jones may get a lot more playing time) and then we still have to pay for starting Oline FAs and a couple other players to fill needs. It just makes more sense from an on-the-field and a business standpoint to let JT walk, imo.
    Thanks, I appreciate your response.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    Denver faced odd front defenses in half of their regular season games in 2014. In view of this, it is inaccurate for Mark Schlereth to say the Guards were " ... covered 90 per cent of the time ... " It was probably more like 50 per cent.

    In 2015, the Broncos will face as many as ten odd front defenses if Pittsburgh stays with it and Chicago moves to it. If the Steelers and Bears are split front in 2015, Denver will face eight odd front defenses.

    The NFL is pretty evenly divided between split and odd front Ds. It would be unlikely to face one or the other 90 per cent of the time in one season.

    So, Center is uncovered about half the time, and Guards are the other half.

    10 odd fronts means plenty of inside zone to me, especially if they're playing their outside backers up in a 50.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by aditheman View Post
    I would agree that we need a Center and a left guard as soon as possible.

    Draft a Center in the 2nd round.

    As far as LG, everyone is saying to sign Mike Iupati from the 49ers, but in this year's game vs. the 49'ers, the Broncos made him look bad, in gfact he got utterly destroyed. So I don't know if he's really THAT good.

    Also, we would need a RT. Who can play right tackle? Franklin or one of our rookies this year?
    Iupati will be overpriced and comes from a 49ers offense that was heavy on power runs with pulling linemen and didn't run nearly as much pure zone. The zone concept is two blockers for two defenders but it's generally a double team (at least on inside zone) to 2 single teams, the way the second level defender steps decides which of the offensive linemen will leave to climb to the next level. No idea if Iupati can read that well or if he has the agility to go from a combo block to climb to the next level and execute the single block. In a power scheme it's easier guard pulls, comes around and picks up the first unblocked other jersey that he sees.

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  • samparnell
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    Denver faced odd front defenses in half of their regular season games in 2014. In view of this, it is inaccurate for Mark Schlereth to say the Guards were " ... covered 90 per cent of the time ... " It was probably more like 50 per cent.

    In 2015, the Broncos will face as many as ten odd front defenses if Pittsburgh stays with it and Chicago moves to it. If the Steelers and Bears are split front in 2015, Denver will face eight odd front defenses.

    The NFL is pretty evenly divided between split and odd front Ds. It would be unlikely to face one or the other 90 per cent of the time in one season.

    So, Center is uncovered about half the time, and Guards are the other half.

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  • aditheman
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    I would agree that we need a Center and a left guard as soon as possible.

    Draft a Center in the 2nd round.

    As far as LG, everyone is saying to sign Mike Iupati from the 49ers, but in this year's game vs. the 49'ers, the Broncos made him look bad, in gfact he got utterly destroyed. So I don't know if he's really THAT good.

    Also, we would need a RT. Who can play right tackle? Franklin or one of our rookies this year?

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  • Houshmazode
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    Originally posted by broncoslover115 View Post
    Hey Housh, can you explain to me your reasoning about why needing to overhaul the line means Julius will be gone? Does that have to do with needing money to sign other guys, or would they be doing that through the draft. I don't understand that part of the business so I'd love to learn and hear what you mean by that.
    Well, money will be part of it unless Manning restructures, but I meant that Julius' poor blocking did not help the oline at all and will be the main reason he isn't returning. If we're going to move to Kubiak's offense, we need players who buy into blocking and are proficient at it, having Thomas in there is a liability and puts more pressure than needed on our tackles when he lines up next to them. I'm not an expert on the business side, coaching side or playing side by any means but I believe our overall goal is to improve the run and pass blocking and paying Julius what he'll command on the market still leaves us with the need for another blocking TE (Dominique Jones may get a lot more playing time) and then we still have to pay for starting Oline FAs and a couple other players to fill needs. It just makes more sense from an on-the-field and a business standpoint to let JT walk, imo.

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