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  • #16
    Playing FS in base downs and moving into the slot on multiple WR sets isn't a bad thing.
    A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by crash123go View Post
      Playing FS in base downs and moving into the slot on multiple WR sets isn't a bad thing.


      Its definitely not, but Id rather see webster do this. Roby has already surpassed Webby on the depth chart. We need our best Cbs on the field. Also, and this is just a guess, but when Talib hits the 10mil a year price tag- coming up quickly- we may think about letting him walk. I realize we will have something like 80 mil to play with next year so we certainly could keep him,but in the event that we do not keep Talib, having Roby, groomed and ready to jump into the #2 role opposite Harris will be very important imo.

      Its not a lack of Roby being able to do it more as we have a similar yet not as polished or skilled guy in webby, and the fact that we need to think about the future and Talibs departure. This is going to be very interesting.
      So far:
      FA- Melvin Gordon. Brandon Scherff
      1. Kenneth Murray LB; 2. Shenault WR; 2B. Biadazz Center, 3. OT

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      • #18
        The current depth in the Secondary seems very good. Packages that get the best players on the field is a great plan IMO. Wade Phillips is known for simplicity. That should enable whoever is on the field to line up and go full blast.
        "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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        • #19
          Originally posted by underrated29 View Post
          Its definitely not, but Id rather see webster do this. Roby has already surpassed Webby on the depth chart. We need our best Cbs on the field. Also, and this is just a guess, but when Talib hits the 10mil a year price tag- coming up quickly- we may think about letting him walk. I realize we will have something like 80 mil to play with next year so we certainly could keep him,but in the event that we do not keep Talib, having Roby, groomed and ready to jump into the #2 role opposite Harris will be very important imo.

          Its not a lack of Roby being able to do it more as we have a similar yet not as polished or skilled guy in webby, and the fact that we need to think about the future and Talibs departure. This is going to be very interesting.
          But in base downs Roby wouldn't be on the field anyways as the number 3 corner.
          A healthy Kenneth Dixon is a top 5 NFL RB.

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          • #20
            If Roby was FS in the base 3-4, and Webster or someone else (like Stewart) came in for a Backer in nickel, it looks like the 3-3-5. Ward's ability to come into the box as a Backer allows a look in that package which could be confusing to some QBs.
            "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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            • #21
              Originally posted by broncoslover115 View Post
              Really? Steve Atwater is Roby's best friends dad? Oh man, I loved that guy. He would have to teach him how to play without getting penalties. Atwater would have a hard time playing in the NFL the way it is today. He'd be getting fines and suspensions every play!


              Bradley Roby’s journey to the Broncos began in high school. He starred at Peachtree Ridge in Suwanee, Ga. As a punt returner, wide receiver and cornerback, he helped his team reach the 2009 state quarterfinals. He redshirted as a freshman at Ohio State, and focusing on cornerback for the first time, his career took off. He started the next 37 games. A first-team All-Big Ten performance as a junior placed him firmly on the Broncos’ radar. Impressed with his athleticism and football IQ, the Broncos drafted Roby in the first round with the 31st overall pick. He has excelled in nickel coverage with the Broncos this season and produced interceptions in back-to-back games against the Patriots and Raiders. He will answer questions from fans each Thursday during the remainder of the season, and says he’s open to “anything, not just football-related stuff.” Here’s the second installment:

              Do you know Steve Atwater’s son? I heard you might of played high school ball with him
              – Nick

              Roby: That’s my best friend, Lil’ Steve. Going into my senior year he transferred to my high school. He was a private school guy, and it was his first year of public school. Me and my friends brought him in and taught him a whole new lifestyle. That’s my best friend. He’s going to school to become a lawyer. I text him almost every day. He played on my high school teams. Mr. Steve had a great family atmosphere. He had four kids, and a big ol’ mansion. I always loved to go over there. They made me feel like part of the family and Mr. Steve would always welcome me. (His wife) would always cook for us. You have to understand having a single mom is how I grew up. It was nice to see that visual. A lot of times where I am from, with my friends, it was us and our moms. We don’t get to see that family structure. It was always refreshing to go over there and spend time. It was like watching a TV show. It was like the Cosby Show. I talked football with him all the time. I would ask him how the league was. He texts me now and said he was proud I was doing well.

              Who is your favorite mascot in sports?
              – Casen

              Roby: Going to baseball games and seeing those guys doing those races, that’s hilarious. My favorite is the presidents at the (Washington) Nationals game. They are running around, tripping and falling, it’s just hilarious. As far as schools go, I kind of like the Duke Blue Devil, that look. I like that. It’s cool.

              Do you think that Ohio State will make the Final Four college football playoff?
              – Joe

              Roby: Of course, because last year didn’t end the way it should have, and this year is redemption. I am little worried about the new system. It’s kind of weird to have a small group of people on a committee controlling it. But I feel like Mississippi State is going to lose again. They have a rivalry game with Ole Miss, that’s a tough game for them. If Ohio State can win out, win convincing in the Big Ten championship game I believe they will jump into the top four because of who they are. Somehow they will slip in there.

              As a cornerback you are put in one-on-one matchups. How do you recover when you get beat on a big play?
              – Bill

              Roby: That’s one of the toughest things. At corner, you have a lot of pride. You want to hold down your side. If you give up a touchdown, you feel like, “It’s all on me. It (stinks).” A defensive lineman misses a gap or a sack, it will be yards but not usually a touchdown. At corner, you make a mistake it could be a touchdown. And it hurts each time. The way you bounce back is critical. It shows your true character. And it puts more value on corners who don’t get beat much, and when they do, they come back and make a play. I am a guy who is always hard on myself if I get beat. You have to learn to adjust, and move on to the next play.

              Do you have a favorite stadium you have been to or played in during your football career?
              – Debbie

              Roby: Wisconsin. Every time we went there, the stadium was crazy. It was the loudest I had ever heard a stadium. They had a kickoff return first play, it got so loud, a night game. I was redshirting, just watching from the sideline and I remember thinking, “This college league is real.” When I played there a couple of years later, it was a night game. It was a crazy experience. And of course night games at Ohio State were special. Noon starts were sellouts, but night games, the fans had all day to get ready for the game. And as a player, you had the anxiety going. All those night games were big games. I loved them. There was nothing like a Ohio State night game. The energy was crazy, the crowd was all hyped. It’s crazy when you look up at 100,000 people. It doesn’t seem real. It seems fake. Once you are playing you aren’t thinking about it. I went back there during the bye week and watched them play Cincinnati. We were blowing them out so it wasn’t as crazy. But looking around at all those people, you realize how cool it was to get to play in that stadium for three years.
              #swapping

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              • #22
                Thanks for posting that. That's so awesome for Roby to have a pseudo family including "Mr. Steve." So glad he got to have that structure in place. Mr. Steve could sure show him a thing or two. Of course within the rules of the current NFL. When I see a repeat of "America's Game" and watch how Mr. Steve knocked out 3 guys on the field, including himself, I keep thinking, man, he'd hate to play the game today. Still pissed that he's not in the HOF. But that's another story for another time.
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                • #23
                  First off, I think it's good that we have enough depth in the secondary to even be having these kind of discussions/"problems."

                  But I guess I'm confused on how this will be implemented in-game. I agree that Roby is good enough that you'd want him out there on >75% of your defensive snaps, and we know he's not going to be the #1 or 2 corner, but at safety he's also not T.J Ward or maybe even Darian Stewart (who I still don't know much about, but usually at this level you can't just replace someone natural to their position by virtue of you being a first round pick and better at another position. And I'm sure Stewart is here for a bit more than just depth).

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cmc0605 View Post
                    First off, I think it's good that we have enough depth in the secondary to even be having these kind of discussions/"problems."

                    But I guess I'm confused on how this will be implemented in-game. I agree that Roby is good enough that you'd want him out there on >75% of your defensive snaps, and we know he's not going to be the #1 or 2 corner, but at safety he's also not T.J Ward or maybe even Darian Stewart (who I still don't know much about, but usually at this level you can't just replace someone natural to their position by virtue of you being a first round pick and better at another position. And I'm sure Stewart is here for a bit more than just depth).
                    There have been players who converted from corner to safety later in their careers. He is a Bronco so he is ahead of the curve and doing it earlier:thumb:
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                    • #25
                      I rather put Webster at safety and leave Roby at corner. We are in sub packages most of the time in today's NFL anyways, it isn't like he will be riding the bench
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                      • #26
                        For $4M they could have had Moore back. They did not bring on Stewart and pay him a starter's salary so he can back up Roby while he learns the position. They did not pick Roby with the #1 as a CB so he could learn to play FS. C'mon-Man! This is all coming from Klis' article where Elway said 'possibly' and now everyone is running with it.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by FL BRONCO View Post
                          There have been players who converted from corner to safety later in their careers. He is a Bronco so he is ahead of the curve and doing it earlier:thumb:
                          Sure: Charlie Greer (13th in career interceptions), Billy Thompson (3rd in career interceptions), John Rowser (28th in career interceptions), Steve Foley (1st in career interceptions), Mike Harden (6th in career interceptions) and Tyrone Braxton (5th in career interceptions)
                          "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Rancid View Post
                            For $4M they could have had Moore back. They did not bring on Stewart and pay him a starter's salary so he can back up Roby while he learns the position. They did not pick Roby with the #1 as a CB so he could learn to play FS. C'mon-Man! This is all coming from Klis' article where Elway said 'possibly' and now everyone is running with it.
                            It amazes me how the sheep follow anyone.

                            For those that are just fan boys of one player or another they welcome any news that involves their guy.

                            As for Post articles most should be taken with a grain of salt and most wind up on the bottom of bird cages anyway

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                              Sure: Charlie Greer (13th in career interceptions), Billy Thompson (3rd in career interceptions), John Rowser (28th in career interceptions), Steve Foley (1st in career interceptions), Mike Harden (6th in career interceptions) and Tyrone Braxton (5th in career interceptions)
                              Were those JUST safety picks or all of their picks.

                              IIRC Billy T got a lot as a CB.

                              But that said he will get a better perspective by playing FS part time. I would applaud the move who knows perhaps he turns into an all Pro there.
                              Anyone want today he should move back to CB?

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                              • #30
                                Among our CBs, I think the best fit at FS is Aqib Talib. He won't be placed there, but I think he is the best fit. At 6'1, 205, he has more size and range than the others to fight for jump balls and he also has plenty of ball skills to be a ballhawk patrolling the field. He's the most experienced CB and would probably have the smoother transition with his football knowledge. He is also our best option to cover TEs. Considering he will be 30 years old next year, he will lose speed every year and won't remain an effective CB for too long.

                                A move to FS would extend his career as a starter in the NFL and give him a better chance to play out his contract. In 2-3 years he won't be a Bronco playing CB with his current contract. He can struggle against quick WRs (see T.Y. Hilton) and if we use him in press coverage he gets beat deep. We got lucky last season because several deep passes should have been touchdowns against Talib.

                                Roby showed a lot of good things as a rookie and I hope this experiment does not hurt his development.
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