Possible position change for Roby

[Bootleg]

http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Roby-sees-opportunity-at-safety/51d9ce7c-828a-4560-8ddb-89b39cbc8d10

[underrated29]

I still assertain roby stays at CB.

We by ad cO ( draft pick) will be trying out at Fs

[samparnell]

Does that mean we would have two "free" safeties? Darian Stewart and Roby, with Ward lining up in the box as "strong" safety? That's essentially a 3-3-5 defense. We don't have any linebackers who can cover tight ends.

With three Safeties, they could play it like a 3-3-5 or Ward could be in the box as a Backer like he did some last year. That could make for some confusing reads. They could run Cover 1 or 0, Cover2/Tampa 2/Robber, Cover 3, Combo, etc.

[broncolee]

Does that mean we would have two "free" safeties? Darian Stewart and Roby, with Ward lining up in the box as "strong" safety? That's essentially a 3-3-5 defense. We don't have any linebackers who can cover tight ends.

Presumably Roby would be competing with Stewart for a starting spot. They could conceivably use Roby in certain nickel situations where he's covering a tight end or slot receiver.

[SmokeBassett]

Does that mean we would have two "free" safeties? Darian Stewart and Roby, with Ward lining up in the box as "strong" safety? That's essentially a 3-3-5 defense. We don't have any linebackers who can cover tight ends.

[mozzerpete]

I'm excited for this move because we are
putting our best players on the field.

Miller---Wolfe---Williams---Jackson---Ware

-----------Marshall--------Trevathan-----------
-----------(Harris)

Harris------Roby-------Ward-------Talib-------
(Roby)---(Webster)

(Nickel package)

We potentially have a top 3 defense.

NT S. Williams is our wild card.
We need him to step up.

[AllEyezOnZach27]

Among our CBs, I think the best fit at FS is Aqib Talib. He won't be placed there, but I think he is the best fit. At 6'1, 205, he has more size and range than the others to fight for jump balls and he also has plenty of ball skills to be a ballhawk patrolling the field. He's the most experienced CB and would probably have the smoother transition with his football knowledge. He is also our best option to cover TEs. Considering he will be 30 years old next year, he will lose speed every year and won't remain an effective CB for too long.

A move to FS would extend his career as a starter in the NFL and give him a better chance to play out his contract. In 2-3 years he won't be a Bronco playing CB with his current contract. He can struggle against quick WRs (see T.Y. Hilton) and if we use him in press coverage he gets beat deep. We got lucky last season because several deep passes should have been touchdowns against Talib.

Roby showed a lot of good things as a rookie and I hope this experiment does not hurt his development.

Great post! Couldn't agree more on both points.

If Roby can progress more this season it could spell the end for Talib. But if we tried him out at FS it could make him even more valuable to the team going forward.

Harris-Talib-Ward-Roby would arguably be one of the top 3 secondaries in the NFL.

This is all very hypothetical though.

[samparnell]

Were those JUST safety picks or all of their picks.

IIRC Billy T got a lot as a CB.

But that said he will get a better perspective by playing FS part time. I would applaud the move who knows perhaps he turns into an all Pro there.
Anyone want today he should move back to CB?

Good question. I'll check.

Goose Gonsoulin is second in career picks for the Broncos at 43, one fewer than Steve Foley. However, Gonsoulin's picks came in seven years and 94 games while Foley's came in eleven years and 150 games. Three of Goose's picks came his last season with the Niners. All of his were as a Safety. He died in September last year.

Steve Foley, a career Bronco, had about half his 44 picks as a Corner.

Billy Thompson had 40, 29 of which came from the S position. His thirteen year career was all in Denver.

Tyrone Braxton had 34 about half of which came when he was a S including 1996 when he had 9. He played one season in Miami.

Mike Harden had 33 picks as a Bronco and 5 as a Raider. About 10 of his Bronco picks came from the Safety spot.

Charlie Greer, a CU Buffalo, played all his seven pro years in Denver. He had 17 picks all except four of which came as a Safety.

John Rowser had a ten year NFL career (26 picks) with three teams (GB, Pitt, Den). His last three seasons were in Denver where he had 5 picks as a FS and 4 as a Corner.

[-Rod-]

Among our CBs, I think the best fit at FS is Aqib Talib. He won't be placed there, but I think he is the best fit. At 6'1, 205, he has more size and range than the others to fight for jump balls and he also has plenty of ball skills to be a ballhawk patrolling the field. He's the most experienced CB and would probably have the smoother transition with his football knowledge. He is also our best option to cover TEs. Considering he will be 30 years old next year, he will lose speed every year and won't remain an effective CB for too long.

A move to FS would extend his career as a starter in the NFL and give him a better chance to play out his contract. In 2-3 years he won't be a Bronco playing CB with his current contract. He can struggle against quick WRs (see T.Y. Hilton) and if we use him in press coverage he gets beat deep. We got lucky last season because several deep passes should have been touchdowns against Talib.

Roby showed a lot of good things as a rookie and I hope this experiment does not hurt his development.

[Garfield]

Sure: Charlie Greer (13th in career interceptions), Billy Thompson (3rd in career interceptions), John Rowser (28th in career interceptions), Steve Foley (1st in career interceptions), Mike Harden (6th in career interceptions) and Tyrone Braxton (5th in career interceptions)

Were those JUST safety picks or all of their picks.

IIRC Billy T got a lot as a CB.

But that said he will get a better perspective by playing FS part time. I would applaud the move who knows perhaps he turns into an all Pro there.
Anyone want today he should move back to CB?

[Garfield]

For $4M they could have had Moore back. They did not bring on Stewart and pay him a starter's salary so he can back up Roby while he learns the position. They did not pick Roby with the #1 as a CB so he could learn to play FS. C'mon-Man! This is all coming from Klis' article where Elway said 'possibly' and now everyone is running with it.

It amazes me how the sheep follow anyone.

For those that are just fan boys of one player or another they welcome any news that involves their guy.

As for Post articles most should be taken with a grain of salt and most wind up on the bottom of bird cages anyway

[samparnell]

There have been players who converted from corner to safety later in their careers. He is a Bronco so he is ahead of the curve and doing it earlier:thumb:

Sure: Charlie Greer (13th in career interceptions), Billy Thompson (3rd in career interceptions), John Rowser (28th in career interceptions), Steve Foley (1st in career interceptions), Mike Harden (6th in career interceptions) and Tyrone Braxton (5th in career interceptions)

[Rancid]

For $4M they could have had Moore back. They did not bring on Stewart and pay him a starter's salary so he can back up Roby while he learns the position. They did not pick Roby with the #1 as a CB so he could learn to play FS. C'mon-Man! This is all coming from Klis' article where Elway said 'possibly' and now everyone is running with it.

[roushmartin6]

I rather put Webster at safety and leave Roby at corner. We are in sub packages most of the time in today's NFL anyways, it isn't like he will be riding the bench

[FL BRONCO]

First off, I think it's good that we have enough depth in the secondary to even be having these kind of discussions/"problems."

But I guess I'm confused on how this will be implemented in-game. I agree that Roby is good enough that you'd want him out there on >75% of your defensive snaps, and we know he's not going to be the #1 or 2 corner, but at safety he's also not T.J Ward or maybe even Darian Stewart (who I still don't know much about, but usually at this level you can't just replace someone natural to their position by virtue of you being a first round pick and better at another position. And I'm sure Stewart is here for a bit more than just depth).

There have been players who converted from corner to safety later in their careers. He is a Bronco so he is ahead of the curve and doing it earlier:thumb: